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From: andrea antonello <andrea.antonello@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:00:39 +0200
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> Sorry guys - was totally offline during the weekend. I guess I should try
> again for a weekday this week.

Don't worry, we were there anyways.

> In the meantime, would emails or async communications work?
> I've also started hacking up some basic views in the codebase, which can
> switched around depending on the outcome of our conversations.

Email is ok. Will also be nice to see some protos. We are getting near
the midterm evaluations, so we need something to judge :)

Ciao,
Andrea

> Cheers
> Mifan
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:06 PM, andrea antonello
> <andrea.antonello@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mifan,
>> we are planning to hack un the new uDig release quite some time this
>> weekend, so I am glad to hear we can chat at that time :)
>>
>> Meet you there,
>> Andrea
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mifan Careem <mifanc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Sorry - I will be travelling on Friday evening my time so that would be
>> > a
>> > bit difficult. I am Ok for anytime on Saturday or Sunday if that is
>> > possible
>> > - and if it wont eat into anyone's weekend plans :)
>> > Cheers
>> > Mifan
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:54 PM, andrea antonello
>> > <andrea.antonello@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Checking the time now ... Brisbane 2am? If I am still awake at that
>> >> > time
>> >> > on
>> >> > a friday I won't be on IRC :-)
>> >>
>> >> Well, what can be better than a nice relaxing IRC after an evening out
>> >> dancing? :)
>> >>
>> >> No really, Mifan, I have thought about it and also seen your docs and
>> >> I would need Jody to be present, since me and him have different ideas
>> >> on certain parts. And I don't want to risk to stretch you one time on
>> >> my side, the next on his and mess up your good work.
>> >> So I would suggest another day. Could Friday work for you guys?
>> >>
>> >> Andrea
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Jody Garnett
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wednesday, 29 June 2011 at 4:43 AM, Mifan Careem wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Andrea,
>> >> > That [1] would work for me - thanks. Hopefully Jody can join us as
>> >> > well
>> >> > as
>> >> > anyone else - the more the merrier.
>> >> > 1
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=uDIG+IRC&iso=20110630T16&ah=1
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> > Mifan
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:13 PM, andrea antonello
>> >> > <andrea.antonello@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Mifan,
>> >> >
>> >> >> Sorry - I'll be out at the newer time you have suggested. Would some
>> >> >> other
>> >> >> time work for you? Maybe later than the previous suggested time? Let
>> >> >> me
>> >> >> know.
>> >> >
>> >> > ok, let me try later. Would this work?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=uDIG+IRC&iso=20110630T16&ah=1
>> >> >
>> >> > The only thing I am afraid of, is that we will loose Jody's support,
>> >> > which is always very valuable.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think an IRC now would be very important, so I would do it anyways
>> >> > (Jody please don't be offended :)).
>> >> >
>> >> > Andrea
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> Mifan
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:40 PM, andrea antonello
>> >> >> <andrea.antonello@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Mifan,
>> >> >>> thanks for all the updates.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I have a problem with the IRC time, since I already have a
>> >> >>> bussiness
>> >> >>> meeting in your proposed timeframe. Would it be possible to
>> >> >>> anticipate
>> >> >>> by 3 hours?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> That would be:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=uDIG+IRC&iso=20110630T09&ah=1
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Andrea
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Mifan Careem <mifanc@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > I have come up with a revised version of the catalog browse view
>> >> >>> > concept
>> >> >>> > C
>> >> >>> > here [1]. This is based on the shortcomings of the previous
>> >> >>> > concept
>> >> >>> > B
>> >> >>> > here
>> >> >>> > [2]. Please take a look at the suggestions. Hopefully this would
>> >> >>> > solve
>> >> >>> > most
>> >> >>> > of the scenarios, if not all.
>> >> >>> > I can explain this in detail in the IRC chat we plan to have on
>> >> >>> > Thursday
>> >> >>> > [3]
>> >> >>> > to see whether this fits the bill.
>> >> >>> > 1
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > - http://udig.refractions.net/confluence/display/UDIG/GSoC+2011+-+Catalog+View+Reports#GSoC2011-CatalogViewReports-conceptc
>> >> >>> > 2
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > - http://udig.refractions.net/confluence/display/UDIG/GSoC+2011+-+Catalog+View+Reports#GSoC2011-CatalogViewReports-conceptb
>> >> >>> > 3
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=uDIG+IRC&iso=20110630T12&ah=1
>> >> >>> > Cheers
>> >> >>> > Mifan
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jody Garnett
>> >> >>> > <jody.garnett@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> The feature type is often the name of the file; and consists of
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> attribute columns defined for that shapefile.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> --
>> >> >>> >> Jody Garnett
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Wednesday, 22 June 2011 at 9:17 PM, Mifan Careem wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Hi All,
>> >> >>> >> I'm working on some additional scenarios for the catalog view,
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> it
>> >> >>> >> is
>> >> >>> >> quite difficult to come up with a one-solution-that-fits all
>> >> >>> >> solution
>> >> >>> >> -
>> >> >>> >> thanks for pointer Andrea - I'm trying to figure out how to
>> >> >>> >> handle
>> >> >>> >> loads of
>> >> >>> >> shapefiles from the local file  system.
>> >> >>> >> Quick question - in terms of a Shapefile, what would Feature
>> >> >>> >> Type
>> >> >>> >> be?
>> >> >>> >> Is
>> >> >>> >> it POINT, LINE or POLYGON or can it be something else?
>> >> >>> >> Thanks
>> >> >>> >> Mifan
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Mifan Careem <mifanc@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Hi Andrea,
>> >> >>> >> Sure - I'll put up some examples for the other types on the
>> >> >>> >> wiki.
>> >> >>> >> It
>> >> >>> >> is
>> >> >>> >> interesting since the view I had doesn't help a situation where
>> >> >>> >> there
>> >> >>> >> are
>> >> >>> >> say 100 shapefiles loaded from the filesystem, which still shows
>> >> >>> >> up
>> >> >>> >> as
>> >> >>> >> a 100
>> >> >>> >> shapefiles in the 'Service' view.
>> >> >>> >> Mifan
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 2:13 AM, andrea antonello
>> >> >>> >> <andrea.antonello@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Hi Mifan,
>> >> >>> >> can you make more examples of your wortkflow for different data
>> >> >>> >> types?
>> >> >>> >> You tend to make examples just with remote services and I want
>> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >>> >> make
>> >> >>> >> sure all the different types have a proper way to be handled.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> What would happen for example with:
>> >> >>> >> - shapefiles
>> >> >>> >> - folder of shapefiles
>> >> >>> >> - tiff
>> >> >>> >> - asc
>> >> >>> >> - folder with tiff and asc
>> >> >>> >> - folder with tiff and shapefiles
>> >> >>> >> - postgis connection
>> >> >>> >> - no4j connection (or H2 or sqlite)
>> >> >>> >> -... any other thought?
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> I can be around for IRC for about 1/2 an hour at the same time
>> >> >>> >> as
>> >> >>> >> last
>> >> >>> >> time.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Ciao,
>> >> >>> >> Andrea
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Mifan Careem
>> >> >>> >> <mifanc@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> > HI All,
>> >> >>> >> > Based on the last IRC breakout on the Catalog View, I've come
>> >> >>> >> > up
>> >> >>> >> > with
>> >> >>> >> > a
>> >> >>> >> > 2nd
>> >> >>> >> > draft of a possible view:
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > http://udig.refractions.net/confluence/display/UDIG/GSoC+2011+-+Catalog+View+Reports#GSoC2011-CatalogViewReports-catalogscenario1
>> >> >>> >> > Scenario 1 here is trying to keep it as simple as possible,
>> >> >>> >> > before
>> >> >>> >> > moving to
>> >> >>> >> > the multi-select (scenario 2) and configurable start
>> >> >>> >> > components
>> >> >>> >> > (scenario
>> >> >>> >> > 3). I'd love to hear your thought on this and verify whether
>> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> > thinking
>> >> >>> >> > here is right. The use case for Scenario 1 is as follows:
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > The catalog lists the Service Types (File, Database, Web
>> >> >>> >> > Services,
>> >> >>> >> > Other,
>> >> >>> >> > Decorator). The other components (Service, DataType and
>> >> >>> >> > Layers)
>> >> >>> >> > are
>> >> >>> >> > blank
>> >> >>> >> > User selects the Web Services Service Type
>> >> >>> >> > The Services component is then filled with the Services that
>> >> >>> >> > fall
>> >> >>> >> > under
>> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> > selected Services Type (FGDC WMS, ESRI WMS, Geoserver WFS
>> >> >>> >> > etc.)
>> >> >>> >> > The user selects the MassGIS WFS. This populates the DataType
>> >> >>> >> > component
>> >> >>> >> > with
>> >> >>> >> > the FeatureTypes.
>> >> >>> >> > The user select the FeatureType. This loads the Layers
>> >> >>> >> > relevant
>> >> >>> >> > to
>> >> >>> >> > the
>> >> >>> >> > feature type. Usually this might be a 1:1 mapping
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> > Should we have another IRC to discuss this further?
>> >> >>> >> > Cheers
>> >> >>> >> > Mifan
>> >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Jody Garnett
>> >> >>> >> > <jody.garnett@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Hi Mifan:
>> >> >>> >> >> Sorry for joining the conversation late :-) I am very
>> >> >>> >> >> enthusiastic
>> >> >>> >> >> about
>> >> >>> >> >> your work - and also your questions as they will help
>> >> >>> >> >> motivate
>> >> >>> >> >> me
>> >> >>> >> >> to
>> >> >>> >> >> iron on
>> >> >>> >> >> the wrinkles in the catalog api.
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Services -> Layer -> Type
>> >> >>> >> >> This is from Jody's original proposal.
>> >> >>> >> >> Services would be a list of services that are loaded
>> >> >>> >> >> Layers would be the layers
>> >> >>> >> >> Types would be the types of layers
>> >> >>> >> >> (An image is available in [2] named Version 3, under the June
>> >> >>> >> >> 10
>> >> >>> >> >> Weekly
>> >> >>> >> >> Report)
>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >> Small clarification; I was not sure what to really do for the
>> >> >>> >> >> last
>> >> >>> >> >> column
>> >> >>> >> >> as i had a number of "things" I wanted to communicate:
>> >> >>> >> >> - type (as you indicated); the annoying part is that type
>> >> >>> >> >> forms
>> >> >>> >> >> a
>> >> >>> >> >> "tree"
>> >> >>> >> >> (with the vast majority of types simply extending feature)
>> >> >>> >> >> - style (I have a change proposal I need to sort out on this
>> >> >>> >> >> topic;
>> >> >>> >> >> but
>> >> >>> >> >> basically styles are organised by feature type - as feature
>> >> >>> >> >> type
>> >> >>> >> >> indicates
>> >> >>> >> >> what geometry and attributes are available to be drawn)
>> >> >>> >> >> - friends (if the data was available via another service we
>> >> >>> >> >> consider
>> >> >>> >> >> both
>> >> >>> >> >> layers to be "friends"). This is actually an "association"
>> >> >>> >> >> but
>> >> >>> >> >> friends
>> >> >>> >> >> makes
>> >> >>> >> >> udig a more user-friendly experience :P
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>> >> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>> >> >
>> >> >>> >> >
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>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
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>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
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>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
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>> >> >>> > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
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>> >> >>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>> >> >> http://udig.refractions.net
>> >> >> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>> >> > http://udig.refractions.net
>> >> > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>> >> >
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>> >> > http://udig.refractions.net
>> >> > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>> >> > http://udig.refractions.net
>> >> > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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