| Re: [iot-pmc] Eclipse Embedded CDT 6.0.0 major release |
On 04.12.20 18:05, Jonah Graham wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 10:04, Hudalla Kai (IOC/PAP-HU)
> <Kai.Hudalla@xxxxxxxx <mailto:Kai.Hudalla@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> Ok, looks good. I just saw that the Branding Rules do not seem to
> require the link for Reporting a Vulnerability [1]. However, you should
> add it to the footer as well.
>
>
> Done. https://eclipse-embed-cdt.github.io/
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>
Ok, that's settled then :-)
>
> Regarding graduation, we usually require the graduating project to
> document their progress wrt to community building and adoption of the
> Eclipse Development Process in the review information. Can you add this
> information?
>
>
> Done. https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/iot.embed-cdt/reviews/6.0.0-release-review
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> My understanding is that the project has already been
> around for several years within the Eclipse Foundation under a different
> name? Is that also the reason why there hadn't been any release review
> for any of the recent releases?
>
>
> The project has been around for 10+ years extending Eclipse IDE + CDT
> from the outside. Last year Frédéric Desbiens convinced Liviu - the
> project lead - to bring the project to the Eclipse Foundation. Liviu has
> been running this project for a long time and it is integrated into many
> embedded companies' Eclipse based products. For me as the Eclipse CDT
> project lead I am delighted to have this project under the foundation as
> it helps secure its long term viability. There is a new top level
> Eclipse IDE download which features this set of plug-ins in the 2020-12
> release (RC1 here[1]). I believe this is the first IoT project to join
> the SimRel.
>
Ok, understood.
> The issue we are seeing here is the disconnect from what Incubation
> means within Eclipse, and with the general view of what Incubation means
> to the wider community. For the Eclipse EPP project the incubating
> labelling has been removed from the download page and the download file
> names (See Bug 564214
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> So while the embed-cdt project is still new to the Eclipse Development
> Process, and in my role as mentor I am working with Liviu the project
> lead, there is a strong desire to graduate out of incubation to reflect
> the maturity of this project in the wider community.
>
I see.
> As for why there were no release reviews - I am not sure, but probably
> because they were really milestones building up towards the first
> official release 6.0.0 of the plug-ins as part of the Eclipse 2020-12
> release. Or perhaps just learning the development process.
>
Taking a look at [1] it actually looks like these have been distributed
already. "Learning the development process" is exactly what the
incubation phase at Eclipse is supposed to be the context for, right?
I do understand your concerns regarding the "negative connotation" that
the Incubation branding might induce for the community's perception of
the project's code maturity. On the other hand, I am not really
convinced that the project has successfully learned the (Eclipse) ropes
yet. I would therefore propose to postpone the graduation review for the
time being. Personally, I would have no problem with omitting the
Incubation branding from the website. However, I would also like to hear
the other PMC members' opinion on this and we will also need to get
Wayne Beaton's consent.
@PMC members: WDYT?
[1] https://github.com/eclipse-embed-cdt/org.eclipse.epp.packages/releases
> Does the IoT PMC still see this project as aligned with the goals of the
> IoT top level project?
>
>
> Maybe you can shed some light on this, Roger?
>
>
> Sorry - as not being particularly familiar with the IoT PMC, I am unsure
> who Roger is. Is Roger part of the PMC, I didn't see his name there[2] -
> but I did see Roger Light as a top contributor to the IoT set of projects?
>
My bad, I meant you, Jonah. I got the names mingled up as we are
currently also in conversation with the Mosquitto project ...
> I hope this helps shed light on things and I look forward to continuing
> this conversation.
>
Absolutely, thanks for the information.
> Thanks,
> Jonah
>
>
> [1] https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/2020-12/rc1/eclipse-ide-embedded-cc-developers
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> [2] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/iot/who
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