Re: [glassfish-dev] GlassFish updates for the javax -> jakarta transitio

[Lukas Jungmann <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

comment inline

On 1/12/20 5:22 PM, Russell Gold wrote:
> > On Jan 11, 2020, at 10:05 PM, Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx 
> > <mailto:bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > Russell Gold wrote on 1/11/20 5:36 PM:
> > >
> [snip]
>
> > > The ORB does not depend on Glassfish, so it would be difficult 
> > > automatically to use the same version, I suspect. But if the pfl-asm 
> > > dependency is removed from Glassfish, I can work on getting rid of it 
> > > completely. I believe that other parts of gmbal-pfl still need it.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm not following what it is you think needs to be done here.
> >
> > I have no idea whether GlassFish is using pfl-asm directly, although 
> > certainly
> > it is using it indirectly because it's using the ORB and the ORB is 
> > using it,
> > right?
>
> A search of the build.xml files in Glassfish shows 5 usages each of 
> pfl-asm, pfl-tf-tools and pfl-basic-tools. I think we would like to 
> eliminate them, if possible.

one of the consumers of gmbal etc is Metro (do you remember the 
webservices node in the GF admin console in v2/v3? - relevant code is 
still present in webservices/jsr109-impl module but disabled/not used 
since v4 I believe).

As for the gmbal usage in Metro - as long as at least gmbal related 
APIs[1] are available, Metro will compile and should work fine since the 
gmbal implementation (pfl*) is optional. There was a plan to replace 
gmbal with something else there but that plan has never been given priority.

thanks,
--lukas

[1]: org.glassfish.gmbal:gmbal-api-only artifact which is ready in the 
repo and only needs to be released so I can adopt it in jaxws-ri and 
wsit (metro)

> > > > > Currently, the ORB is built so that it should run under JDK11 
> > > > > (pfl-basic is an MR jar). Some additional work will be needed in 
> > > > > Glassfish to take advantage of that.
> > > >
> > > > What kind of work would be needed in GlassFish?
> > > >
> > > > How is pfl-basic related to orb-gmbal-pfl?
> > >
> > > orb-gmbal-pfl used to be called, simply, pfl, and consists of a 
> > > number of projects, including some only used for testing. I’d like to 
> > > get rid of the latter. The important ones are pfl-basic and pfl-dynamic.
> >
> > And those are in an MR jar that works in JDK 11?
> >
> > So there's no need to get rid of pfl-basic or pfl-dynamic, right?
>
> Correct.
>
> > > > In fact, I don't think this will need to be done, but we will need 
> > > > the entire
> > > > ORB and RMI-IIOP support to work correctly in a JDK 11 runtime, as 
> > > > part of
> > > > providing backward compatibility for those products that need it (e.g.,
> > > > WebLogic), including EJB interoperability support.
> > >
> > > I’ve already done that work for WebLogic. Glassfish just needs to use 
> > > the updated APIs, I believe.
> >
> > Is that work already in the Eclipse project?
>
> Yes.
>
> > What's involved in converting GlassFish to use the updated APIs?
>
> I’ll have to do some research on that point.
>
>
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