Re: [ee4j-build] EE4J Build Team meeting 10/31/2018

[Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, Fred!

I don't suppose you could update the wiki to support the
"Using article creation template" approach to creating a
new page?
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Starting_a_new_page#Using_article_creation_template

And it would be nice if there was some notification when
moderators approve a page!

Should I file bug reports to request these improvements?


Frederic Gurr wrote on 11/02/2018 11:05 AM:
> Hi,
> 
> I've added a few details to your answers and created the following page:
> 
> https://wiki.eclipse.org/How_to_add_pages_to_the_Jakarta_EE_wiki
> 
> Please let us know, if anything is missing.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Fred
> 
> On 31.10.18 21:56, Ed Bratt wrote:
>> Frederic, can you help us with this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -- Ed
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/2018 12:55 PM, Bill Shannon wrote:
>>> Yes, I want a wiki page written by someone who understands the answers
>>> to these questions.  Surely someone here could do that?  I know it's
>>> not me...  :-)
>>>
>>> Ed Bratt wrote on 10/31/2018 12:50 PM:
>>>>
>>>> Well, I can only try with the things I can infer ...
>>>>
>>>> The wiki is Media Wiki. You might learn some of the mechanics from
>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Editing_pages
>>>>
>>>> Categories -- seem to just be keywords that you can add to pages.
>>>> From what I can tell, they can be anywhere in the markup. You can
>>>> have multiple categories for any page.
>>>>
>>>> Moderation is probably in place to prevent vandalism. Near as I can
>>>> tell, you have to have one or more "edits" approved, then (I think)
>>>> the moderate constraint is removed (that was what was inferred by
>>>> Kevin's e-mail). (Indirectly, you can look at the list of Active
>>>> Users to see who currently has no-moderate -- hint, I am not on that
>>>> list as of this moment).
>>>>
>>>> I don't know who the moderators are. It's not clear if this can be
>>>> granted to a sub-set of users. I'd guess that they are all Eclipse
>>>> Admins or staff folks, but that's just a guess. There are a couple of
>>>> categories of users. I couldn't guess, beyond administrators what
>>>> permissions who has.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea how moderate request notification works -- or if there
>>>> is even any notification.
>>>>
>>>> I see, my one edit is still pending moderator approval -- so
>>>> apparently, someone else got in and added that (rendering my proposed
>>>> change moot now.)
>>>>
>>>> We could start a how-to page if you like. My theory is, if you create
>>>> a page now, it will immediately be published as you are now an
>>>> "active <https://wiki.eclipse.org/Special:ActiveUsers>" user.
>>>>
>>>> -- Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/31/2018 12:12 PM, Bill Shannon wrote:
>>>>> Ed Bratt wrote on 10/31/2018 07:59 AM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Discussion about Eclipse Wiki pages
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   * Dmitry raised the issue that all Eclipse wiki page updates
>>>>>>     require a moderator to approve. For example, the component
>>>>>>     release tracker wiki, for example, has an edit-backlog as of
>>>>>>     this writing. Currently moderators appear to be limited to a
>>>>>>     small number of community and Eclipse members. We have
>>>>>>     requested additional approvers be allocated so that we can get
>>>>>>     updates to the wiki pages more quickly. Eclipse admins will
>>>>>>     investigate.
>>>>>>       o Dmitry has requested that Jakarta EE be added to the
>>>>>>         Eclipse Wiki home-page. As it is now, users must know that
>>>>>>         there is a Jakarta EE category, or know the link:
>>>>>>         https://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:Jakarta_EE. Eclipse
>>>>>>         admins have agreed and will add this link to the Eclipse
>>>>>>         Wiki homepage.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone please create a wiki page with the title "How to add
>>>>> pages to the Jakarta EE wiki"?  It was not obvious to me how to do
>>>>> so, and I didn't do everything correctly.  Surely we want more
>>>>> people to add wiki pages so giving them a place to start and some
>>>>> guidance would be really helpful.  For example, how should I name my
>>>>> pages?  How do I use Category:Jakarta_EE?  Why do I have to wait for
>>>>> a moderator to approve my page?  How will I know when the moderator
>>>>> has approved my page?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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