Re: [ee4j-build] EE4J Build Team meeting 10/31/2018

[Frederic Gurr <frederic.gurr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I've added a few details to your answers and created the following page:

https://wiki.eclipse.org/How_to_add_pages_to_the_Jakarta_EE_wiki

Please let us know, if anything is missing.


Regards,

Fred

On 31.10.18 21:56, Ed Bratt wrote:
> Frederic, can you help us with this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- Ed
> 
> 
> On 10/31/2018 12:55 PM, Bill Shannon wrote:
>> Yes, I want a wiki page written by someone who understands the answers
>> to these questions.  Surely someone here could do that?  I know it's
>> not me...  :-)
>>
>> Ed Bratt wrote on 10/31/2018 12:50 PM:
>>>
>>> Well, I can only try with the things I can infer ...
>>>
>>> The wiki is Media Wiki. You might learn some of the mechanics from
>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Editing_pages
>>>
>>> Categories -- seem to just be keywords that you can add to pages.
>>> From what I can tell, they can be anywhere in the markup. You can
>>> have multiple categories for any page.
>>>
>>> Moderation is probably in place to prevent vandalism. Near as I can
>>> tell, you have to have one or more "edits" approved, then (I think)
>>> the moderate constraint is removed (that was what was inferred by
>>> Kevin's e-mail). (Indirectly, you can look at the list of Active
>>> Users to see who currently has no-moderate -- hint, I am not on that
>>> list as of this moment).
>>>
>>> I don't know who the moderators are. It's not clear if this can be
>>> granted to a sub-set of users. I'd guess that they are all Eclipse
>>> Admins or staff folks, but that's just a guess. There are a couple of
>>> categories of users. I couldn't guess, beyond administrators what
>>> permissions who has.
>>>
>>> I have no idea how moderate request notification works -- or if there
>>> is even any notification.
>>>
>>> I see, my one edit is still pending moderator approval -- so
>>> apparently, someone else got in and added that (rendering my proposed
>>> change moot now.)
>>>
>>> We could start a how-to page if you like. My theory is, if you create
>>> a page now, it will immediately be published as you are now an
>>> "active <https://wiki.eclipse.org/Special:ActiveUsers>" user.
>>>
>>> -- Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2018 12:12 PM, Bill Shannon wrote:
>>>> Ed Bratt wrote on 10/31/2018 07:59 AM:
>>>>>
>>>>> Discussion about Eclipse Wiki pages
>>>>>
>>>>>   * Dmitry raised the issue that all Eclipse wiki page updates
>>>>>     require a moderator to approve. For example, the component
>>>>>     release tracker wiki, for example, has an edit-backlog as of
>>>>>     this writing. Currently moderators appear to be limited to a
>>>>>     small number of community and Eclipse members. We have
>>>>>     requested additional approvers be allocated so that we can get
>>>>>     updates to the wiki pages more quickly. Eclipse admins will
>>>>>     investigate.
>>>>>       o Dmitry has requested that Jakarta EE be added to the
>>>>>         Eclipse Wiki home-page. As it is now, users must know that
>>>>>         there is a Jakarta EE category, or know the link:
>>>>>         https://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:Jakarta_EE. Eclipse
>>>>>         admins have agreed and will add this link to the Eclipse
>>>>>         Wiki homepage.
>>>>>
>>>> Can someone please create a wiki page with the title "How to add
>>>> pages to the Jakarta EE wiki"?  It was not obvious to me how to do
>>>> so, and I didn't do everything correctly.  Surely we want more
>>>> people to add wiki pages so giving them a place to start and some
>>>> guidance would be really helpful.  For example, how should I name my
>>>> pages?  How do I use Category:Jakarta_EE?  Why do I have to wait for
>>>> a moderator to approve my page?  How will I know when the moderator
>>>> has approved my page?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 

-- 
Frederic Gurr
Release Engineer | Eclipse Foundation Europe GmbH

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