| Re: [jaxrs-dev] Oracle Certification |
Let's tell it you this way then: Oracle is not particularly known for listening to external ideas.
-Markus
From: jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rawand takna
Sent: Samstag, 19. Januar 2019 18:37_______________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [jaxrs-dev] Oracle Certification
considering to ask EF to provide such certificates would be a good idea, but let's be honest, everyone prefers ORACLE.
as for ORACLE not generating revenue from JAX-RS certifications, they are already doing it.
take a look at this
this is an exam that covers REST and SOAP (using JAX-RS and JAX-WS)
Regards
-Rawand
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 8:26 PM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
certificates and exams are used for all kinds of purposes in the IT world (like the ones I listed), not just for the one you seek for, hence my question.
So what you ask for is that the JAX-RS committers (i. e. people from other companies, like competitors of Oracle, like sparetime volunteers) shall ask in particular the Oracle corporation to set up a commercial certification program for JAX-RS so you can proof your JAX-RS abilities? I doubt they would even listen to us as this would not produce enough revenue.
JAX-RS is not under Oracle's sole ownership. It is an international standard previously hosted by the JCP now hosted by the EF. It makes more sense if we ask the EF to license exams to external IT training companies, so you could choose just any.
-Markus
From: jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rawand takna
Sent: Samstag, 19. Januar 2019 18:15
To: jaxrs developer discussions
Subject: Re: [jaxrs-dev] Oracle Certification
the whole purpose of a certification is to prove that the holder knows what he/she is claiming to know.
example: you are sick
person1 tells you he can prescribe you medications.
person2 tells you he can prescribe you medications + shows you his certificate.
you probably go with person2
I want to show my clients that I know how to build RESTful web services using JAX-RS.
the problem is they won't believe me unless I have a certificate, just as you won't go to a doctor without a certificate.
now if I want to obtain an ORACLE certificate, there is only one option which is a certificate covering both SOAP and REST based web services.
what I am asking for is a certificate only covering REST and not SOAP. which is not available at the moment.
so if you can convince them to provide such a certificate, I would be really thankful.
Regards
-Rawand
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 7:54 PM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>a certificate covering all aspects of JAX-RS only.
>this is what I want.
A certfication for programmers that they are able to write JAX-RS applications?
A certification for programmers that their applications a JAX-RS compliant?
A certification for companies producing JAX-RS compliant applications?
A certfication for companies producing JAX-RS compliant implementations?
…?
Can you please mark the purpose?
Thanks
-Makus
From: jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rawand takna
Sent: Samstag, 19. Januar 2019 17:24
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Subject: Re: [jaxrs-dev] Oracle Certification
a certificate covering all aspects of JAX-RS only.
this is what I want.
the current certificates are based on web services in general (SOAP and REST)
if this is broken down into two separate certificates, one for SOAP and one for REST, it would be much better as it shows the employer that the certificate holder does, in fact, know more about REST and it eliminates the need to study SOAP in order to be certified with a REST related certification.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 7:16 PM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rawandtakna,
sorry for answering late.
To understand correctly, what exactly (in five words or less) do you want to get certified?
-Markus
From: jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaxrs-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rajitha Gunawardhane
Sent: Freitag, 18. Januar 2019 07:15
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Subject: Re: [jaxrs-dev] Oracle Certification
I am sorry, I am not from oracle or some where,
But I think as of yet there is no any JAX-RS or REST related exam.
Thanks.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 5:40 AM rawand takna <rawandtakna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You said, " All those certifications going to end of life by this March."
I am asking about the new certificates and exams and not the current ones.
would there be a specific exam for RESTful web services (using JAX-RS) only?
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:03 AM Rajitha Gunawardhane <dvrajitha@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes Now it is only one exam as I saw, it is 1Z0-900, here is the link https://education.oracle.com/java-ee-7-application-developer/pexam_1Z0-900
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, 1:11 am rawand takna <rawandtakna@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
JEE certification or certifications ?
You mean there will be a single certificate covering all JEE specs? Or there will be a certificate for each JEE spec?
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 9:29 PM Rajitha Gunawardhane <dvrajitha@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Rawand,
All those certifications going to end of life by this March.
I think new JEE certification is covering jax-rs as well :-).
Kind Regards,
Rajitha.
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019, 10:50 pm rawand takna <rawandtakna@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
You said that: "mainly focused on SOAP"
SOAP and REST are two different things.There is no need for someone to learn SOAP to understand REST.
I think there must be a separate certificate for each of them.
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 7:57 PM Guillermo González de Agüero <z06.guillermo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Rawand,
Oracle has a Web Services certification, mainly focused on SOAP and JAX-WS but also asseses, but covering JAX-RS too.
Regards,
Guillermo González de Agüero
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 4:36 PM rawand takna <rawandtakna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I can see that Oracle provides certificates for the following specifications:
1- JPA (Java Persistence API)
2- EJB (Enterprise JavaBeans)
3- JSF (Java Server Faces)
Why JAX-RS is not included?
Isn't JAX-RS as important as JPA, EJB, and JSF?
Maybe the JAX-RS team can influence them to include such a certificate so that we can prove ourselves to employers that we know how to build RESTful web services with JAX-RS.
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