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Re: [iot-pmc] Eclipse Embedded CDT 6.0.0 major release
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+1 for the 6.0.0 release
On 08.12.20 15:47, Jonah Graham wrote:
> Can the project get the official +1 for the release please.
>
> Thanks
> Jonah
>
> ~~~
> Jonah Graham
> Kichwa Coders
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> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 03:46, Jens Reimann <jreimann@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jreimann@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> To my understanding (and please correct me if I am wrong) the
> project existed for a long time, but outside the Eclipse Foundation.
>
> The incubation phase exists for a bunch of reasons [1], code quality
> is one of them. Learning the Eclipse processes is another. That is
> very close to like other foundations do it as well.
>
> Traditionally projects also start out with a 0.x version number,
> which is not the case here I think. That would say more about code
> quality and maturity than the "incubation" state.
>
> So I would say it makes sense to go through the incubation phase.
> Learn about the processes, and learn how to align with the SimRel
> releases. Talk about graduation a bit later.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jens
>
> [1]: https://www.eclipse.org/projects/handbook/#release-graduation
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> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 12:07 PM Hudalla Kai (IOC/PAP-HU)
> <Kai.Hudalla@xxxxxxxx <mailto:Kai.Hudalla@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> On 04.12.20 18:05, Jonah Graham wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 10:04, Hudalla Kai (IOC/PAP-HU)
> > <Kai.Hudalla@xxxxxxxx <mailto:Kai.Hudalla@xxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:Kai.Hudalla@xxxxxxxx <mailto:Kai.Hudalla@xxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, looks good. I just saw that the Branding Rules do not
> seem to
> > require the link for Reporting a Vulnerability [1].
> However, you should
> > add it to the footer as well.
> >
> >
> > Done. https://eclipse-embed-cdt.github.io/
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> >
> >
>
> Ok, that's settled then :-)
>
>
> >
> > Regarding graduation, we usually require the graduating
> project to
> > document their progress wrt to community building and
> adoption of the
> > Eclipse Development Process in the review information. Can
> you add this
> > information?
> >
> >
> >
> Done. https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/iot.embed-cdt/reviews/6.0.0-release-review
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> >
> >
> > My understanding is that the project has already been
> > around for several years within the Eclipse Foundation
> under a different
> > name? Is that also the reason why there hadn't been any
> release review
> > for any of the recent releases?
> >
> >
> > The project has been around for 10+ years extending Eclipse
> IDE + CDT
> > from the outside. Last year Frédéric Desbiens convinced Liviu
> - the
> > project lead - to bring the project to the Eclipse Foundation.
> Liviu has
> > been running this project for a long time and it is integrated
> into many
> > embedded companies' Eclipse based products. For me as the
> Eclipse CDT
> > project lead I am delighted to have this project under the
> foundation as
> > it helps secure its long term viability. There is a new top level
> > Eclipse IDE download which features this set of plug-ins in
> the 2020-12
> > release (RC1 here[1]). I believe this is the first IoT project
> to join
> > the SimRel.
> >
>
> Ok, understood.
>
> > The issue we are seeing here is the disconnect from what
> Incubation
> > means within Eclipse, and with the general view of what
> Incubation means
> > to the wider community. For the Eclipse EPP project the incubating
> > labelling has been removed from the download page and the
> download file
> > names (See Bug 564214
> >
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> > So while the embed-cdt project is still new to the Eclipse
> Development
> > Process, and in my role as mentor I am working with Liviu the
> project
> > lead, there is a strong desire to graduate out of incubation
> to reflect
> > the maturity of this project in the wider community.
> >
>
> I see.
>
> > As for why there were no release reviews - I am not sure, but
> probably
> > because they were really milestones building up towards the first
> > official release 6.0.0 of the plug-ins as part of the Eclipse
> 2020-12
> > release. Or perhaps just learning the development process.
> >
>
> Taking a look at [1] it actually looks like these have been
> distributed
> already. "Learning the development process" is exactly what the
> incubation phase at Eclipse is supposed to be the context for,
> right?
>
> I do understand your concerns regarding the "negative
> connotation" that
> the Incubation branding might induce for the community's
> perception of
> the project's code maturity. On the other hand, I am not really
> convinced that the project has successfully learned the
> (Eclipse) ropes
> yet. I would therefore propose to postpone the graduation review
> for the
> time being. Personally, I would have no problem with omitting the
> Incubation branding from the website. However, I would also like
> to hear
> the other PMC members' opinion on this and we will also need to get
> Wayne Beaton's consent.
>
> @PMC members: WDYT?
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/eclipse-embed-cdt/org.eclipse.epp.packages/releases
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> > Does the IoT PMC still see this project as aligned with the
> goals of the
> > IoT top level project?
> >
> >
> > Maybe you can shed some light on this, Roger?
> >
> >
> > Sorry - as not being particularly familiar with the IoT PMC, I
> am unsure
> > who Roger is. Is Roger part of the PMC, I didn't see his name
> there[2] -
> > but I did see Roger Light as a top contributor to the IoT set
> of projects?
> >
>
> My bad, I meant you, Jonah. I got the names mingled up as we are
> currently also in conversation with the Mosquitto project ...
>
>
> > I hope this helps shed light on things and I look forward to
> continuing
> > this conversation.
> >
>
> Absolutely, thanks for the information.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Jonah
> >
> >
> >
> [1] https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/2020-12/rc1/eclipse-ide-embedded-cc-developers
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>
> Kai Hudalla
>
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Kai Hudalla
Software Developer - Bosch IoT Hub
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