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Re: [iot-pmc] Concierge 1.0 release review
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+1 for the 1.0 release
After reading through the discussion, I do think releasing 1.0 is
fine. Maybe even 1.1 to indicate that this is something "fresher"
than the sourceforge release. But I think you can decide this
best. What I understood is, after you mentioned it, that Concierge
has some history on sourecforge and this is good enough for me.
For the graduation I still think it is best to wait a few
releases. I do think that it takes a few releases before one can
decide about maturity of a project. Even if you know your way
around Eclipse, each project is different. And as Kai said, you
never now what the future brings and how your first (Eclipse)
release turns out. So I think this is the right decision.
And as Kai mentioned, maybe it is a German thing, or maybe it is
just me, but I would like to fully understand the situation before
I vote. So my intention is not to upset you!
And personally I really hope for another OSGi implementation which
brings R6 :) No matter if it is 0.1, 1.0 or graduated ;-)
Jens
On 10/08/2015 11:31 PM, Jan S. Rellermeyer wrote:
Okay,
that sounds like a good plan. Let me quickly (within the
margin of time zones) run the idea by the other committers
(and the dev-list in case somebody else has an opinion about
it) and I will then adjust the version number in the release
plan accordingly. I am not sure if I need to re-submit my
request for approval of the release review documentation
because of this change but I will possibly do it just in
case…
Regarding
graduation, I think you (Jens and Kai) brought up very
reasonable concerns and I see some improvements coming to
the project in the immediate future so I would suggest I
remove the graduation request, give the other committer and
me some more time to work on the material, fix some of the
pain points, and hopefully see the community picking up our
release to an extent that justifies graduation more clearly.
There is the possibility of a minor release on the horizon
for when we got full IP approval for my OSGi REST reference
implementation to be moved to Concierge so I guess we can
target this as a possible time for graduation or even wait
for the next major release.
Re:
Possible Jens and myself are simply (too) German
No
prob, I’ve been there, too. 17 years later, some people
still think I am J
--Jan.
Ok, so +1 on a version >= 1.0 - with
the existing release 1.0 on SF, I would actually agree with
Benjamin that Concierge should consider to directly go to
2.0.
So what’s your opinion on the
graduation part then?
@Benjamin: Are you suggesting that Jan
should release a 1.0/2.0/5.0, but does NOT
have to graduate at the same time, but
could stay an incubation project? How can
it be told that a project is in incubation
then?
Absolutely. vert.x for
example is still incubating, and releasing
>1.0 versions [0] since they already had a
“life” before Eclipse.
I’m just referring to the
Eclipse Development Process [1] here. The only
requirement is for incubating projects to make
it clear in their branding [2] (bundle-name,
features names, downloadable ZIP distros, etc)
that it’s an incubation project. Also, the
Wiki page [3] about the requirements for
releases of an incubating project is pretty
clear regarding possible having >1.0
releases.
Possible Jens and myself
are simply (too) German and we wanted to
follow the rules as we understood them for
new Eclipse projects ("the Eclipse Way“).
There might be some
documentation that refers to the now obsolete
requirement that incubation means < 1.0, so
if that’s what got you confused, please point
us at the culprit documents.
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