Re: [iot-pmc] Concierge 1.0 release review

[Kai Kreuzer <kai@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jan,

The semantic versioning is indeed a good argument. Following this (what is indeed the strong recommendation at least for OSGi), it means that it indeed does not make any sense to have 0.x numbers for a while, which then culminate in a 1.0 release.

@Benjamin: Are you suggesting that Jan should release a 1.0/2.0/5.0, but does NOT have to graduate at the same time, but could stay an incubation project? How can it be told that a project is in incubation then?

Possible Jens and myself are simply (too) German and we wanted to follow the rules as we understood them for new Eclipse projects ("the Eclipse Way“).
After the discussion here I am wondering, whether the EF in general should re-think the concept of incubation/graduation…

Regards,
Kai


> Am 08.10.2015 um 21:43 schrieb Jan S. Rellermeyer <rellermeyer@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> Good points, Ian. 
> 
>> 3. I do believe Concierge has a good community. If I am not mistaken the
>> 3 committers are from three different organizations. 
> 
> Yes, this is true. We are also looking forward to welcome a few new
> committers through the Facebook Open Academy program soon. I think for a
> very technical project we are in decent shape. 
> 
>> Overall, I would love to see a Concierge release before EclipseCon Europe
> so
>> Jan and others can promote it to the Eclipse and OSGi community. I don't
>> believe Graduation vs Incubation is a big deal for the community. If you
> don't
>> do 1.0, I would suggest 0.8 or 0.9 to indicate it is close.
> 
> I agree. Getting the release out is the priority. Graduation is secondary. 
> 
> However, my main point wrt version number is that the OSGi community is
> trained to interpret versions semantically. To them, anything below 1.0
> would indicate at least that the code is not ready but even more so that the
> APIs are not stable and I think neither is the case. The only reason that I
> hear for a sub-1.0 version is basically that the committers were not ready.
> While I see how people would come to this conclusion (not having had a prior
> release with Concierge), I would like to point out that I have been an
> Eclipse Committer for almost a decade now (and worked on many releases with
> ECF) and I think at least Jochen also has a longer tenure as an active
> committer. So we are not exactly freshmen. 
> 
> --Jan. 
> 
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