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[ve-dev] Re: XSWT and EXSWT 
Hi Phillipe and David,
The current codebase as available from http://publicsvn.bestsolution.at/repos/java/ is licensed under EPL and incooperates concepts from David's initial approach named XSWT. 

Still there are some differences to consider with the current code base:
- It's heavily using XML-Namespaces to provide extensibility
  which is one of the major targets I had in mind when coding

- It's currently targeted for Equinox-based applications
  to extend the functionality using extension-points.
  Do we also want to target none OSGI-Applications?

- I provides transformer chains to transform any highlevel dialect to
  XSWT (I did a first small draft implementation for Flex when it came
  out) but doing something similar for e.g. XAML shouldn't be too much a
  problem.

Know limitation of the current code base:
- Usage of Apache-Bean-Utils: The current codebase uses a patched
  version because Bean-Utils doesn't allow to access public-methods
  from package-scoped classes which makes support for JFace impossible
  (We should think about an replacement because this would make the IP
  process much easier)
- No support for forms
As David pointed out the XML-Dialect is not 100% user friendly but I take the point that it doesn't have to be because of the offered transformer chain highlevel-dialects like XAML, ... can easily be developed on top of it. A thing we have to work for of course is inconsistency which might violated in some situations. 

Tom

David J. Orme schrieb:

Hi Philippe,

Thanks for contacting me!
In principle, I support the EXSWT extensions, however I think the syntax could be made more compact and more human-friendly while retaining its extensibility. I'd be happy to work with the community to achieve this goal and would then be able to support such a move 100%.
Serious health concerns in my immediate family have prevented me from using much of my own time on Eclipse-related stuff lately, so please be understanding if I don't always respond immediately. 

I suggest that we use the ve-dev list to coordinate the discussion.


Best regards,

Dave Orme

----- Original Message -----
From: Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Discussions people developing code for the Visual Editor project <ve-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Tom Schindl <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, David J. Orme <djo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:23:52 PM GMT-0600
Subject: XSWT and EXSWT

Hi:
David Orme one of the historic lead for the VE project maintained a
library called XSWT tighly related to visual editing.
Tom Schindl (Jface committer) in agreement with David, forked that
library and maintains it now as EXSWT.
I would like us to consider invinting Tom to join VE and contribute
EXSWT code to VE.
Also we could possibly
start working using Cathy's Groovy related contribution to create a
visual EXSWT editor .
Thoughts?


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Cheers
Philippe

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