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Re: [sumo-user] Vehicle position output

Hi,
we already had german VISSIM networks here which used Gauss-Krueger
projection for the so-called DHDN (Deutsches Hauptdreiecksnetz). If the
network originates from local municipalities there is a good chance that
it uses the local standard like https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWEREF_99
or https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_90

Best regards,
Michael

Am 20.04.2018 um 10:16 schrieb Jakob Erdmann:
> Then I do not think that the vissim network was projected with UTM. If
> you cannot guess the projection you can either try to find the original
> vissim network or you can simply re-import the network again from OSM
> and compute a linear mapping from 3 corresponding points in both
> .net.xml files. (only 1 point needed if you are feeling lucky).
> 
> 
> 
> 2018-04-20 9:46 GMT+02:00 Thuresson, Daniel
> <daniel.thuresson.2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:daniel.thuresson.2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
> 
>     Yes, Gothenburg: Latitud 57.70887, Longitud 11.974559999999997____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     /Daniel____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     *From:*sumo-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:sumo-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     [mailto:sumo-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:sumo-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Jakob Erdmann
>     *Sent:* den 20 april 2018 09:39
> 
> 
>     *To:* Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [sumo-user] Vehicle position output____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Hello,
>     SUMO uses UTM by default and shifts the coordinates so that the
>     lower left network corner is at 0,0.
>     However, your original network file was created without projection
>     information (projParameter="!").
>     In this case SUMO only takes the coordinates it was already given
>     and shifts them without doing any projecting.
>     From their magnitude one can try guess what the original projection
>     for the vissim data was (possibly UTM).____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Do you know from which city this network is?____
> 
>     regards,____
> 
>     Jakob____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     2018-04-20 9:22 GMT+02:00 Thuresson, Daniel
>     <daniel.thuresson.2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:daniel.thuresson.2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:____
> 
>         Hi,____
> 
>          ____
> 
>         I was expecting absolute values in some coordinate system (as
>         stated in the manual). Manual also states that values should be
>         offset with “netOffset”. ____
> 
>         What kind of coordinates does SUMO output? UTM? ____
> 
>         I don’t know much about the creation of the original net-file
>         since that was created before I got involved. I think it
>         originates from some VISSIM export, but not sure. ____
> 
>          ____
> 
>         /Daniel____
> 
>          ____
> 
>         *From:*sumo-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         <mailto:sumo-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>         [mailto:sumo-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         <mailto:sumo-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Jakob Erdmann
>         *Sent:* den 20 april 2018 09:03
>         *To:* Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
>         <mailto:sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>         *Subject:* Re: [sumo-user] Vehicle position output____
> 
>          ____
> 
>         Hello,
>         What kind of coordinates would you expect? The origBoundary
>         values look a bit like UTM values where the wrong zone was used
>         for projecting something from Finnland.____
> 
>         regards,____
> 
>         Jakob____
> 
>          ____
> 
>         2018-04-20 7:58 GMT+02:00 Thuresson, Daniel
>         <daniel.thuresson.2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         <mailto:daniel.thuresson.2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:____
> 
>             Hi,____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             I have the EmissionOutput activated and wants to use the x
>             and y position output. The manual says this:____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             pos_x____
> 
>             	
> 
>             ---____
> 
>             	
> 
>             The absolut X coordinate of the vehicle. The value depends
>             on the given geographic projection.____
> 
>             pos_y____
> 
>             	
> 
>             ---____
> 
>             	
> 
>             The absolut Y coordinate of the vehicle. The value depends
>             on the given geographic projection.____
> 
>              ____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             Fine, but the results file looks something like this:____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             <vehicle id="100.39" type="veh165" lane="1072.0_0"
>             speed="13.89" pos="71.74" angle="274.98" x="4687.89"
>             y="1231.88" dist2front="170.56"/>____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             What are the x and y values? A coordinate relative to
>             something? ____
> 
>             A read about this in the manual and found out that you
>             should:____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             “For networks with no projection (projParameter='!'), only
>             the offset must be applied.”____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             Ok, my offset is this:____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             <location netOffset="-1433123.30,-7374447.50"
>             convBoundary="0.00,0.00,9340.19,10863.49"
>             origBoundary="1433123.30,7374447.50,1442463.49,7385311.00"
>             projParameter="!"/>____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             If I subtract the offsets the result still makes no sense to
>             me…____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             Any help is appreciated!____
> 
>              ____
> 
>             Rgds /Daniel____
> 
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