Re: [science-iwg] Review BoF EclipseCon

[UOMo <uomo@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mike/all,

Thanks for the input and asking Wayne.

If the IWG turned into a top level approach to models related to Science, looking at EMF:

http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/

The "science" part could play a similar role "modeling" does for EMF and other Model-related projects.

However, at least EMF and most other projects under Modeling don't use that term in their package naming. Similar with all languages that use a "package" at all (for Lua or C it may be different or irrelevant;-) recent M2M projects like Paho also just use "org.eclipse.paho.*"

So for the web site, suppose we'd aim for a top level presentation some day "science.eclipse.org" sounded appealing, but for the package name I could only think of let's say XML Schema or similar interchangable elements that might use this namespace.

Also some projects serve more than one IWG and domain already. PolarSys, M2M, Automotive they all come into play for some sooner or later.

Werner

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Hello,

Yes this was my thinking too, I thought org.eclipse.science was not likely to be the project name (?) and org.eclipse.science-iwg is rather pants so I resorted to org.eclipse.scisoft. However maybe we could make org.eclipse.science the project after all? Or would that be somewhat arrogant to the other science projects under eclipse?

I think, but am not entirely sure, that it would be good if we do choose one we all agree on. The alternative is that we all submit our own eclipse projects. I think we would likely get more value from a joint project but it will be harder to set up and agree on. Which is where the starting small idea came from.

Matt

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Before everyone gets too committed to this namespace, let's check with Wayne Beaton. My recollection is that the current recommendation is that project namespaces be simply org.eclipse.projectname, and not include the top-level project.

But Wayne's the guy who knows :)


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+1 from me too for org.eclipse.science.

Jay
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Just to add, I also feel OK with the package hierarchy suggestions other than the name of the project top level;-)

Werner

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Hi All,

+1 for org.eclipse.science.*, just because it's nice and generic and
probably un-trademark-able.

Other than that I like Matt & Philip's suggestions.

Cheers,
Stephan
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Zitat von UOMo <uomo@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:uomo@xxxxxxxxxxx>>:

> Just saw, Scisoft or the ESO (EU Observatory) software artifact is even
> called "eclipse", too, http://www.eso.org/sci/software/eclipse/ for obvious
> reasons, it deals with Solar or Lunar Eclipse observation, there is no
> evidence of Eclipse software being used, but that makes the combination of
> "eclipse" and "scisoft" even more irritating.
>
> Especiallly that looks like a very professional and well-established
> project, even if there may not be a trademark.
>
> Werner

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