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Re: [ptp-dev] Apple/Java?
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I've been using Parallels for 3 or 4 years and it seems very stable. The only problem with the VM approach is that you need lots of memory. Unfortunately my old crusty Mac is stuck at 3GB so the VM experience is not as good as it could be.
Greg
On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Albert L. Rossi wrote:
> Well, it was about time I took the virtualization plunge on my own "life" machine as well, so perhaps this thread I initiated has served mainly to light the fires under me. For the moment I'm going with (Oracle [sic!]) VirtualBox as Roland suggested.
>
> I was unaware of any activity on the Eclipse site concerning this issue, so I thought I'd start the ball rolling here.
>
>
> ----- Beth Tibbitts <tibbitts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I agree dual-boot is a pain.
>> I use the computer (MacBook Pro) for so much of my life - work and non-work
>> - that having it booted somewhere else that I can't immediately get to
>> everything else is not an option.
>> I have VMWare and run Linux there sometimes to test PTP or grab
>> screenshots.
>> But I find myself doing more and more in OS X instead.
>>
>> I also agree that surely something will work out: either Oracle doing the
>> OS X JVM or some of the other options.
>> Or maybe it will be time to investigate another 'life' - on another OS.
>> That's why i switched from Windows to a Mac,
>> mostly just wanting to learn something new. A fulltime life on Linux might
>> be next. But I sure do like it here on the Mac.
>>
>> I do agree with some of the articles posted that at developer conferences
>> you see more and more Macs.
>> It's really hard to believe that Apple would abandon all those loyal
>> developers. Oh well.
>>
>> Does anyone see a thread on the general Eclipse forums about this? I have
>> looked and can't find anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> ...Beth
>>
>> Beth Tibbitts
>> Eclipse Parallel Tools Platform http://eclipse.org/ptp
>> IBM STG Communications Protocols and Tools
>> Mailing Address: IBM Corp., Coldstream Research Campus, 745 West New
>> Circle Road, Lexington, KY 40511
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>> Thanks ... I'll give it a try.
>>
>> ----- Roland Schulz <roland@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> I don't recommend dual-boot. It's a hassle. Buy enough RAM and
>>> use virtualization (e.g. virtualbox is free). If you have enough RAM it
>> is
>>> almost (~95%) as fast and you don't need to reboot. I do most my work
>> inside
>>> a virtual machine.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Albert L. Rossi
>> <arossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> P.S., I'm sure some of you have dual-booted Linux on a MacBook Pro.
>>>> Anything problematic?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Albert L. Rossi <arossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> This seems to be the most hopeful thing to think at this point. Some
>> see
>>>> it as an advantage, given the habitual release lag time for the Apple
>> JVMs.
>>>> It would make a certain amount of sense that Apple turn over is JVM
>> code to
>>>> Oracle.
>>>>>
>>>>> As to the reason for all this, the security holes are indeed
>> problematic,
>>>> but I'm afraid Dieter is right in pointing out that it doesn't seem to
>> stop
>>>> with the JVM ... banning all non-conforming apps is clearly and
>>>> anti-competitive move.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, it's hope for the best but start thinking about the Linux box I
>> may
>>>> have to develop on in the near future (you'll never get me on a Windows
>>>> machine again).
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>> ----- Greg Watson <g.watson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> I think an interesting point is that no other platform does it's
>> own
>>>> jvm. Sun/Oracle provide the Linux/windows versions, so it seems likely
>>>> they'll also provide a Lion version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:01 PM, "Albert L. Rossi"
>> <arossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's another post.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.infoq.com/news/2010/10/apple-deprecates-java
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Dieter <dieter.krachtus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Does this really come as a surprise? I remember Jobs trashing
>> Java
>>>> as
>>>>>>>> the big ball and chain, being a huge topic of discussion at
>>>>>>>> Eclipsecon2007. When OSX 10.0 was released Apple was on the
>> brink of
>>>>>>>> irrelevance and happy to broaden their platform with Java.
>> Today,
>>>>>>>> their walled garden might kick out Java in 10.7 and depending on
>> the
>>>>>>>> success of their OSX appstore, all non-conform apps and
>> development
>>>>>>>> tools in 10.8. Brave new world!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dieter
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