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Re: [ptp-dev] Apple/Java?
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Well, it was about time I took the virtualization plunge on my own "life" machine as well, so perhaps this thread I initiated has served mainly to light the fires under me. For the moment I'm going with (Oracle [sic!]) VirtualBox as Roland suggested.
I was unaware of any activity on the Eclipse site concerning this issue, so I thought I'd start the ball rolling here.
----- Beth Tibbitts <tibbitts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I agree dual-boot is a pain.
> I use the computer (MacBook Pro) for so much of my life - work and non-work
> - that having it booted somewhere else that I can't immediately get to
> everything else is not an option.
> I have VMWare and run Linux there sometimes to test PTP or grab
> screenshots.
> But I find myself doing more and more in OS X instead.
>
> I also agree that surely something will work out: either Oracle doing the
> OS X JVM or some of the other options.
> Or maybe it will be time to investigate another 'life' - on another OS.
> That's why i switched from Windows to a Mac,
> mostly just wanting to learn something new. A fulltime life on Linux might
> be next. But I sure do like it here on the Mac.
>
> I do agree with some of the articles posted that at developer conferences
> you see more and more Macs.
> It's really hard to believe that Apple would abandon all those loyal
> developers. Oh well.
>
> Does anyone see a thread on the general Eclipse forums about this? I have
> looked and can't find anything.
>
>
>
> ...Beth
>
> Beth Tibbitts
> Eclipse Parallel Tools Platform http://eclipse.org/ptp
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> Thanks ... I'll give it a try.
>
> ----- Roland Schulz <roland@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I don't recommend dual-boot. It's a hassle. Buy enough RAM and
> > use virtualization (e.g. virtualbox is free). If you have enough RAM it
> is
> > almost (~95%) as fast and you don't need to reboot. I do most my work
> inside
> > a virtual machine.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Albert L. Rossi
> <arossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >
> > > P.S., I'm sure some of you have dual-booted Linux on a MacBook Pro.
> > > Anything problematic?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Albert L. Rossi <arossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > This seems to be the most hopeful thing to think at this point. Some
> see
> > > it as an advantage, given the habitual release lag time for the Apple
> JVMs.
> > > It would make a certain amount of sense that Apple turn over is JVM
> code to
> > > Oracle.
> > > >
> > > > As to the reason for all this, the security holes are indeed
> problematic,
> > > but I'm afraid Dieter is right in pointing out that it doesn't seem to
> stop
> > > with the JVM ... banning all non-conforming apps is clearly and
> > > anti-competitive move.
> > > >
> > > > So, it's hope for the best but start thinking about the Linux box I
> may
> > > have to develop on in the near future (you'll never get me on a Windows
> > > machine again).
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > > ----- Greg Watson <g.watson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > I think an interesting point is that no other platform does it's
> own
> > > jvm. Sun/Oracle provide the Linux/windows versions, so it seems likely
> > > they'll also provide a Lion version.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:01 PM, "Albert L. Rossi"
> <arossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here's another post.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.infoq.com/news/2010/10/apple-deprecates-java
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Dieter <dieter.krachtus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >> Does this really come as a surprise? I remember Jobs trashing
> Java
> > > as
> > > > > >> the big ball and chain, being a huge topic of discussion at
> > > > > >> Eclipsecon2007. When OSX 10.0 was released Apple was on the
> brink of
> > > > > >> irrelevance and happy to broaden their platform with Java.
> Today,
> > > > > >> their walled garden might kick out Java in 10.7 and depending on
> the
> > > > > >> success of their OSX appstore, all non-conform apps and
> development
> > > > > >> tools in 10.8. Brave new world!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Dieter
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