Doug,
Just to put some more information on what was already said about Cell
IDE contribution to PTP:
* Cell IDE integrates Cell SDK to Eclipse and CDT base environment. It
does that not only supporting IBM tools, but also supporting open
source tools such as GCC and GDB for both types of processors present
in a Cell chip.
* As Beth said, we already contributed part of Cell IDE, named Remote
Tools, to the PTP community in order to enable remote
launching/debugging of applications on any remote platform that can be
connected through SSH.
* We wish to contribute more features to PTP, being that by
generalizing current Cell IDE features so that they can work on other
environments or by enabling Cell support on some PTP features.
* PTP objective is to support development for parallel environments.
As Cell is growing as a parallel platform, we think it would be a good
idea to add that support to PTP.
Best regards,
Leonardo Garcia
IDE Software Engineer - Linux on Cell
Linux Technology Center Brazil
Phone: +55-19-2132-2068 (T/L: 839-2068)
lagarcia@xxxxxxxxxx
Beth Tibbitts wrote:
They can probably give more details than I, but they contributed
the remote tools support to PTP and generalized that for general use
(not just Cell),
are generalizing PTP resource managers to handle more runtime systems,
and i believe plan to generalize other (originally) cell-specific
views/tools etc
to be of use to the larger PTP community. We're working with them to
leverage the PTP Performance Tools Framework for launching Cell (and
other Linux)
performance tools as well. Basically, they have contributed code
generalized for use to the larger PTP community, and are pre-req'ing
some existing
PTP parts to require as part of the Cell IDE. Give some, take some, a
symbiotic relationship.
...Beth
Beth Tibbitts (859) 243-4981 (TL 545-4981)
High Productivity Tools / Parallel Tools http://eclipse.org/ptp
IBM T.J.Watson Research Center
Mailing Address: IBM Corp., 745 West New Circle Road, Lexington, KY
40511
"Schaefer, Doug"
<Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Actually it would really help if
the IBM team could tell us why they are contributing it to PTP and what
their vision is for the Cell IDE community.
Thanks,
Doug.
From: ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:11 AM
To: Parallel Tools Platform general
developers
Cc: lagarcia@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE
contribution to PTP
Cool, thanks Craig. I can see Cell
being useful for the scientific community. But I'm trying to figure out
if there is any separation between the Cell IDE and IBM commercial
interests. You did somewhat confirm that you are an IBM customer and do
fit on the commercial side. I assume IBM, like most platform vendors,
should be providing a supported IDE as a part of their solution, no?
I think we get into a fuzzy area
when a commercial vendor contributes software that can only be used
with their products. I have similar concerns with the xlc integration
with the CDT, BTW. I'll need to check up the chain about that, assuming
that's what this is. And, if the community fully support this, it makes
it harder for me to argue.
Cheers,
Doug.
From: ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Craig Rasmussen
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:44 AM
To: Parallel Tools Platform general
developers
Cc: lagarcia@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE
contribution to PTP
The Cell architecture is a big component of Los
Alamos' computing vision. We have just purchased the 1 Petaflop
Roadrunner machine and are looking for ways to ease the transition for
our developers. I'm a member of a small team of neural scientists at
LANL who are purchasing a small Cell based cluster for code
development. Our team is also using Eclipse and PTP and the Cell IDE
fits very nicely in the parallel space we are working in.
Cheers,
Craig
On Jul 11, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Schaefer, Doug wrote:
I've added a comment on the
bug. I'm just wondering how the Cell IDE fits into the PTP mandate. And
I'm wondering about the community around the Cell IDE, i.e., who uses
it, is there a community outside of IBM commercial interests?
Doug wearing his Tools PMC hat.
From: ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Leonardo Augusto Guimarães Garcia
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:09 PM
To: Parallel Tools Platform general
developers
Subject: Re: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE
contribution to PTP
Greg,
I attached the necessary patches and the source code for Cell IDE in
the Eclipse bug #240243.
Please, let me know if there is any issue.
Best regards,
Leonardo Garcia
Linux on Cell and Prism Focal Point - LTC Brazil
IDE Software Engineer - Linux on Cell
Linux Technology Center Brazil
Phone: +55-19-2132-2068 (T/L: 839-2068)
lagarcia@xxxxxxxxxx
Leonardo Augusto Guimarães Garcia wrote:
Greg,
I opened Eclipse bug #240243 in
order to contribute Cell IDE source code to PTP.
I'll attach the necessary patches and source code on the bug by the end
of this week so that you and others interested can take a look.
Best regards,
Leonardo Garcia
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