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Re: [ptp-dev] Parallel Environment implementation for PTP Resource Manager model
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Ok. Will call then.
Dave
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Re: [ptp-dev] Parallel Environment implementation for PTP Resource
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Let's make it 3:15 then.
Greg
On Dec 15, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Dave Wootton wrote:
> Greg
> I have a meeting that ends at 3:00, so I might be a few minutes
> late, but
> that time works for me.
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> Dave
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> We can use my conference call number (the one we use for the PTP
> meetings). I'm pretty free most of next week. How about 3pm EST/1pm
> MST on Monday 18th?
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> Greg
>
> On Dec 15, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Randy M. Roberts wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> It's great to have you on board at this time. We are currently
>> trying
>> to hash out ideas on these subjects into resource manager
>> requirements
>> and a design. Issue 2) is especially vexing, and we could do with
>> as much input as possible.
>>
>> I'll be here next week, but I don't know anything about setting up
>> conference calls.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Randy
>>
>> On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 10:24 -0500, Dave Wootton wrote:
>>> I have my protoype code that implements PE support working, I think
>>> correctly with the PTP head level code I grabbed Tuesday night.
>>> The job
>>> view seems to update correctly, my PE implementation shows up as a
>>> resource
>>> manager that I can start and stop, and when I invoke an
>>> application using
>>> the PE resource manager, I can see the machine view update with
>>> state
>>> changes from available to running to completed as my job runs. It
>>> isn't
>>> perfect, but at least I'm somewhere in the right area.
>>>
>>> So, if you have the time later next week, I'd like to have a
>>> conference
>>> call to discuss a couple things that I've been trying to resolve,
>>> and
>>> whatever else may come up.
>>>
>>> 1) How should the machine view deal with how PE can be used
>>> interactively,
>>> where there is no global daemon running to trach the state of the
>>> cluster,
>>> and all a PE process knows about is itself? I can submit multiple
>>> PE jobs,
>>> each, in principle, with their own host list and therefore
>>> different set of
>>> nodes. This implies that the machine view can add and delete
>>> nodes. This
>>> also raises questions about deleting nodes, since otehr things may
>>> care
>>> about node numbering.
>>>
>>> 2) What's the direction for specifying things like PE environment
>>> variables
>>> to run an application? The simplest solution is to just specify a
>>> script
>>> file that contains the environment variables, and in essence, run
>>> that
>>> before running the application. This puts the burden on the user
>>> to set the
>>> script up. The other extreme is to have settings panels, either in
>>> preferences or launch configuration, that provide checkboxes,
>>> buttons,
>>> droptdowns, etc, and maybe tooltip text so a new user sees
>>> something a
>>> little more friendly, but which puts the burden of managing the
>>> compexity
>>> of environment variable rules on the maintainers of the PTP code.
>>> Maybe
>>> both are required, to support both the new and experienced users.
>>>
>>> I don't have any way to set up a conference call now (I should
>>> work on
>>> that), so if we can do this, I'll need somebody else to set one up.
>>> Somebody mentioned Thursday being better. That works for me, and
>>> I am
>>> around all week. If you would rather wait until January, I can do
>>> that too.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dave
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