Re: [jakartaee-tck-dev] Discussion on stand alone TCKs as part of the ce

["Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jan,
I agree that WebSocket
1.1 was part of Java EE 8.  But, Scott's experience was that the TCK
tests for WebSocket 1.1 were not integrated into the CTS 8 run.  At
least when we did our CTS 8 testing.  Has it since become part of
the Java EE 8 and Jakarta EE 8 platform test bucket?  We're trying
to figure out if running WebSocket 1.1 as a standalone bucket is still
required, or if it's now integrated with Jakarta EE 8 TCK.

CDI and BV have
always been separate TCK efforts.  Batch does have their own TCK bucket
as well, but it's my understanding that there was a CTS wrapper for this
bucket which incorporated the Java Batch testing into the Java EE 8 CTS.
 Is that still the case with Jakarta EE 8?  Or, do compliant
implementations have to run the Java Batch TCK separately?

I know Batch,
CDI, and BV are in the process of moving their Specs, APIs, and TCKs to
Eclipse.  I just don't know if that process will complete by the time
we're ready to claim Jakarta EE 8 is done.  So, I think Scott is just
trying to clarify what buckets will be required to claim Jakarta EE 8 compliance.
 And, will this be part of the TCK User's Guide or documented somewhere
for reference?

Thanks!

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From:
       Jan
Supol <jan.supol@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:
       jakartaee-tck-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date:
       06/25/2019
02:46 PM
Subject:
       [EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakartaee-tck-dev] Discussion on stand alone TCKs as part of the certification
process
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Hi Scott,

Websocket 1.0 Specification has been part of Java EE 7, Websocket 1.1 
was released later in between Java EE 7 and Java EE 8. So Websocket 1.1
Spec was not part of Java EE 7, but definitely it was part of Java EE 8,
and Websocket 1.1 TCK tests were part of CTS 8 (and Jakarta EE TCK).

For any application server to claim compatibility with Java EE 8, the 
application server had to pass all the CTS (Java EE TCK) tests. CDI, 
Bean Validation and Java Batch were led outside of Oracle and the 
vendors were responsible  for the respective TCKs. For claiming the
compatibility with Java EE 8, the application servers had to pass the 
CDI, BV, and Java Batch TCKs, too.

Now, the CDI api is not in the Eclipse EE4J github repository, and I do
not see the CDI TCK there either. So more than thinking about "over
lap", I would think about the APIs (and respective TCKs) that were
part 
of Java EE 8, but were not contributed to Jakarta EE.

Thanks,

Jan


On 25.06.2019 20:51, Scott Highbarger wrote:
>
> Some of the recent discussions on stand alone TCKs got me to wondering
> what if any are we going to require as part of the Jakarta 
> certification process? Is the jakartaeetck the only hard requirement
> and the stand alone TCKs additional for extra 
> features/implementations? Many of the stand alone TCKs clearly have
> over lap with the jakartaeetck but specifically I've been thinking
of 
> this in the context of areas like the CDI 2.0 TCK and websocket 1.1
> etc. which do not have as much over lap.
> The CDI 2.0 was technically part of the EE8 Spec, while I believe
the 
> websocket 1.1 level was not. I'm wondering what the rest of the 
> community is thinking in regards to these stand alone TCKs that don't
> directly over lap the jakartaeetck?
>
>
> Scott E. Highbarger
> [_shighbar@xxxxxx.com_ <mailto:shighbar@xxxxxxxxxx>]
> Advisory Software Engineer
> WebSphere Application Server CTS
> IBM Software Group
> (303) 773-5264
>
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