Re: [che-dev] RFC: Eclipse Cloud Development Tools working group proposa

[Dave Neary <dneary@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you Nedelcho!

In case this was unclear: Please share this to any other relevant groups
who you think would be interested.

Thanks!
Dave.

On 11/08/2018 03:19 AM, Delchev, Nedelcho wrote:
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> I also agree, that we have to spend a bit more time in defining the
> scope precisely. LSP and DAP can be considered in scope, but cannot be
> the (only) focus. Let’s discuss this in today’s ECD PMC call
> https://wiki.eclipse.org/ECD/PMC
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> Regards,
> 
> Nedelcho
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> *From: *<che-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Mario
> <mario.loriedo@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Reply-To: *che developer discussions <che-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Date: *Thursday, 8 November 2018, 0:00
> *To: *che developer discussions <che-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject: *Re: [che-dev] RFC: Eclipse Cloud Development Tools working
> group proposal
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> That's a great idea but we need to work on the scope. LSP and DAP are
> not specific to Cloud Development (besides being originated by
> Microsoft). Putting the focus on those topics looks weird. 
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> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 3:14 PM Thomas Mäder <tmader@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tmader@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>     Hi Dave,
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>     I think it's a great idea to get people who develop around the
>     language protocol family around a table. However, by marrying this
>     to "cloud development", you exclude probably the most important
>     member of the group: Microsoft. VSCode (where a lot of this stuff
>     originates) is not a cloud IDE in any sense.
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>     /Thomas
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>     On Tue, 2018-11-06 at 14:55 -0500, Dave Neary wrote:
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>         Oops - forgot link:
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>         <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uygw254YUiSqjN5IaLLXK4hiIN5pY-wrQkOag5fDk8I/edit?usp=sharing>
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>         _https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uygw254YUiSqjN5IaLLXK4hiIN5pY-wrQkOag5fDk8I/edit?usp=sharing_
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>         Thanks,
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>         Dave.
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>         On 11/06/2018 12:02 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
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>             Hi everyone,
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>              
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>             I put together a draft working group proposal for the Eclipse Foundation
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>             to engender greater collaboration across ECD projects - this is the
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>             initial draft, which is now open for comments.
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>             I would love feedback, specifically around the scope. The initial scope
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>             I had imagined was around interoperability and adoption of LSP, but
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>             through the EclipseCon day, it was clear that extensions to LSP for
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>             debugging, tracing, testing, profiling, and more would be interesting to
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>             consider, and I think that collaboration on the definition and
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>             implementation of extensions should be in scope. Another suggestion I
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>             received was that the working group could agree on what is required for
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>             the definition of a cloud developer workspace. I am open to having this
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>             in scope,m but this draft does not yet reflect that.
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>              
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>             Please let me know:
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>             1) if you or your employer is interested in participating in this
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>             working group
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>             2) Whether you have any concerns about the scope or activities of the
> 
>             working group
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>             3) Any edits you feel should be made to the charter to improve clarity
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>             and enable members to work together more effectively
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>             We will discuss the working group and the draft during the next Che
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>             community meeting on Monday.
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>             Thank you all!
> 
>             Dave.
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>              
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