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Hi Thomas, I know we do not have a scope for Flash but it really should have a proper scope. And yes I am well aware that ConversationScope is in CDI and it really ought to be in Faces. Flash (scope) has a quite different way of using it. What resources? Have you allocated folks that I do not know about? I would love to be able to allocate someone to something
😉 ….. in all seriousness this is an open-source project and I am proposing to modularize the scopes and yes that to me means I would be signing up for that work, hence why I am proposing it. On your polling to get usage numbers …. You’ll hit confirmation bias almost
Immediately because you will get a very limited set of folks responding. I mentioned it as a way of measuring as right now we really “know” only because of our own observations. All this work is for setting Faces up for a future where a) we have data to make informed decisions and b) a structure that makes it a whole lot easier to go through a deprecation/removal process and c) makes it easier for someone to pick up said piece when we have removed it and they want to take it forward. On the note of ui:repeat I really would want that one to disappear from history as yes it is fraught with problems and has never formally been specified as each Faces implementation could have delivered its own implementation that is not compatible as there is no way to determine that. Thanks! Kind regards, Manfred Riem From: faces-dev <faces-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
Thomas Andraschko Hi, we don't even have a real scope for Flash. Also ConversationScope is inside CDI, not JSF. Also isn't Flash something like RedirectScope? Really, please don't get me wrong here, but i don't see a big benefit here. We should put our scarce resources into something like this:
https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/faces-api/issues/1499 This is something that prevents users since JSF early days to correctly use validators inside ui:repeat. If we need an analysis of which JSF scopes/features are used, we should just do a poll. I also have like 10+ customers applications here and could do a simple analysis of used scopes. I can however say: Flash, Conversation, Flow are almost unused. Request, Session, View are really heavily used; some uses DeltaSpike WindowScope for a "session/tab" usecase. Best regards, Thomas
Am Mi., 20. Jan. 2021 um 16:46 Uhr schrieb Manfred Riem <m_riem@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
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