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Re: [udig-devel] Meeting at 1700 (1 hour)

Hey Jesse, this is the log.

[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:08:38] <Jesse_Eichar>	hi
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:08:42] <Jesse_Eichar>	emily_g
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:08:49] <mauricio_>	hi
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:09:02] <Jesse_Eichar>	anything to talk about today?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:09:04] <emily_g>	hello
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:09:31] <mauricio_>	I would like know the status of trunk
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:09:42] <mauricio_>	could we work in it?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:09:54] <Jesse_Eichar>	depends what you want to do with it 
I think
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:09:56] <emily_g>	I would like ot know more about the 
activemaptracker issue we've talked about on the list
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:10:08] <Jesse_Eichar>	how do you change the title of the 
irc?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:11:25] <emily_g>	sorry can't help you with that one
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:11:30] <Jesse_Eichar>	bummer
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:11:36] <Jesse_Eichar>	oh well
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:11:51] <Jesse_Eichar>	ok so plan for now is:
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:12:01] <Jesse_Eichar>	1.  general update
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:12:14] <Jesse_Eichar>	2.  what does mauricio want with 
trunk
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:12:18] <Jesse_Eichar>	3.  ActiveMapTracker
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:12:25] <Jesse_Eichar>	so 1. for now:
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:13:11] <Jesse_Eichar>	I have been working on sextante and 
element framework
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:13:25] <emily_g>	I added and example on how to make an 
overview map to the rcp tutorial.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:13:27] <Jesse_Eichar>	I will be looking at the spliting 
of the libs library for Harald
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:14:03] <Jesse_Eichar>	cool that
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:14:11] <mauricio_>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:14:13] <Jesse_Eichar>	Its been a long time coming :)
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:14:22] <Jesse_Eichar>	2.  what does mauricio want with 
trunk
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:14:28] <emily_g>	last time Graham and I updated trunk the 
lib didn't compile because of dependency on a geotools modules that was 
removed.  I Believe graham reported this to the geotools list but I'm not sure 
it ever got fixed.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:14:28] <Jesse_Eichar>	what's up mauricio?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:14:40] <mauricio_>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:14:52] <mauricio_>	we are workin in bug fixing
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:15:05] <mauricio_>	and some tools spike 
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:15:20] <mauricio_>	we release parallels
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:15:33] <mauricio_>	finnish
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[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:16:31] <Jesse_Eichar>	and what do you want with trunk?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:16:36] <mauricio_>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:16:39] <Jesse_Eichar>	Trunk can be developed on
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:16:47] <Jesse_Eichar>	I can even get you SDKs if you 
would like
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:16:48] <mauricio_>	we only need link
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:16:56] 	 * moovida had troubles with his irc client
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:17:18] <Jesse_Eichar>	but if you want to be writing an 
application based on it you probably want to watch out.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:17:28] <Jesse_Eichar>	There are some rough spots still.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:17:51] <mauricio_>	no we only are thinking in plubins
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:17:52] <Jesse_Eichar>	Is that fair emily?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:17:55] <mauricio_>	plugins
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:18:16] <Jesse_Eichar>	so develop plugins for trunk?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:18:26] <Jesse_Eichar>	It can be done but when do you need 
them to be in production?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:18:27] <mauricio_>	our plugins should be compatible with 
1.2 (trunk)
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:18:38] <Jesse_Eichar>	ah I see
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:18:55] <emily_g>	probably - I haven't used a lot of the 
features in trunk; our client is using trunk and it seems to work for what 
they are doing with it.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:19:31] <Jesse_Eichar>	From the looking I have done the 
importing of databases is really clunky and requires odd work arounds
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:19:51] <Jesse_Eichar>	The editing is getting better but I 
still experience some odd things.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:20:00] <Jesse_Eichar>	But like I said I haven't used it a 
lot
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:20:14] <Jesse_Eichar>	Eary next year I am going to do a 
top to bottom QA run
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:20:16] <emily_g>	I've only used it as a viewer for 
shapefiles, wms, wmsc, and a bit of wfs stuff
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:20:29] <Jesse_Eichar>	yeah that works fairly well
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:20:49] <mauricio_>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:21:06] <Jesse_Eichar>	that answer your question?  You 
need an SDK?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:21:23] <mauricio_>	I think no
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:21:36] <mauricio_>	we could checkout the trunk
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:21:37] <Jesse_Eichar>	ok  I will try to get you one by 
next monday
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:21:43] <mauricio_>	and link with it
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:21:55] <Jesse_Eichar>	it shouldn't take long.  Harald got 
it going so I should as well
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:22:21] <Jesse_Eichar>	ok 3) emily
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:22:27] 	 * moovida wonders if Jesse_Eichar is talking 
about the headless building script
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:22:35] <Jesse_Eichar>	yes moovida
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:22:56] <moovida>	excuse me, could somebody email me the 
first part of this irc?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:22:59] <moovida>	please
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:23:03] <Jesse_Eichar>	sure
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:23:22] <moovida>	thanks Jesse
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:23:27] <emily_g>	well I have a problem with the 
ActiveMapTracker not actually tracking the maps that are open when I create a 
perspective extension
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:23:29] <Jesse_Eichar>	on its way
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:23:53] <Jesse_Eichar>	I guess I need to know what you 
mean by when you create a perspective extension
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:24:21] <emily_g>	I used the 
org.eclipse.ui.perspectiveExtensions extension point
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:24:39] <Jesse_Eichar>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:24:46] <emily_g>	and added a view that contains a map to 
an existing perspective
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:24:53] <Jesse_Eichar>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:24:56] <emily_g>	this existing perspective is the one 
initially shown by the application
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:25:54] <Jesse_Eichar>	right
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:26:14] <emily_g>	when the bounds of the viewport model 
change there is some code that checks if the activeMap is valid and contains 
within the visible maps
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:26:30] <emily_g>	at this point the activemap is null and 
there are no visible maps
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:26:40] <Jesse_Eichar>	to paraphrase
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:26:56] <Jesse_Eichar>	you start udig with a certain 
perspective
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:27:11] <Jesse_Eichar>	the perspective has a view that is 
a MapPart
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:27:15] <emily_g>	(its actually not udig; its a custom 
app)
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:27:19] <Jesse_Eichar>	sure
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:27:38] <Jesse_Eichar>	but the view is not being 
recognized as a mappart for some reason.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:27:50] <Jesse_Eichar>	is that basically it?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:28:23] <emily_g>	the first part is; i'm not sure about the 
second part
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:28:32] <emily_g>	I looked at the ActiveMapTracker class
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:28:39] <Jesse_Eichar>	me too
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:28:43] <emily_g>	I think when a perspective with a map is 
open
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:28:53] <emily_g>	there is a partVisible function called
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:29:06] <emily_g>	this function never gets called for my 
view
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:29:18] <Jesse_Eichar>	There are a few things that take 
place
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:29:23] <Jesse_Eichar>	a perspective is a page
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:29:24] <emily_g>	if it did the view would be recognized 
as mappart and everything would be happy :)
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:29:33] <Jesse_Eichar>	when you start up
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:30:17] <Jesse_Eichar>	The startup method is supposed to 
be called and all the pages and views are supposed to be processed.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:30:55] <Jesse_Eichar>	I would guess that the  
viewportmodel change is happening before the start is being called
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:31:38] <Jesse_Eichar>	not an easy problem to fix
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:31:41] <emily_g>	I'm not sure about that one, because 
even if I pan after the the map is fully open I still have the same problem
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:32:01] <Jesse_Eichar>	odd
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:32:16] <emily_g>	as a test; once it was all open I 
printed out what the visible maps were and there was nothing
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:32:20] <Jesse_Eichar>	to be fair this has never been 
tested with views so there is probably a but
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:32:26] <Jesse_Eichar>	but=bug
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:32:33] <Jesse_Eichar>	try closing the view
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:32:42] <Jesse_Eichar>	and opening it again and see if the 
method is called
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:32:52] <emily_g>	I believe it is
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:33:00] <Jesse_Eichar>	in that case it works?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:33:06] <emily_g>	when the view is opened using an 
OpenView action then it works fine
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:33:37] <Jesse_Eichar>	maybe the listener isn't getting 
properly added on startup.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:33:57] <emily_g>	I looked at the pageOpened function
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:34:06] <emily_g>	and it only adds maps to the openMaps 
list
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:34:16] <emily_g>	not the visiblemaps or activeParts list
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:34:46] <Jesse_Eichar>	you are correct
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:34:48] <emily_g>	when a page is opened does it mean it is 
visible?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:34:54] <Jesse_Eichar>	no it doesn't
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:05] <Jesse_Eichar>	it could be behind another view
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:07] <Jesse_Eichar>	or editor
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:14] <Jesse_Eichar>	but that is probably the bug
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:22] <Jesse_Eichar>	probably a check should be done
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:26] <Jesse_Eichar>	to see if it is visible
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:37] <Jesse_Eichar>	if yes add to visible maps
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:40] <emily_g>	so we could do a if (view.isVisible()) 
then add to visiblemaps
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:44] <Jesse_Eichar>	right
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:46] <Jesse_Eichar>	also
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:51] <Jesse_Eichar>	editors should be added last
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:35:58] <Jesse_Eichar>	so if there is a visible editor and 
visible map
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:36:03] <emily_g>	yup there is a second for editors and 
views
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:36:03] <Jesse_Eichar>	the editor should be the active map
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:36:11] <Jesse_Eichar>	right
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:36:15] <Jesse_Eichar>	might be in the wrong order
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:36:16] <Jesse_Eichar>	not sure
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[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:36:35] <emily_g>	okay I'll try this.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:36:44] <emily_g>	if I get something working I'll sent it 
to you for review?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:36:49] <Jesse_Eichar>	also not added to active maps for 
some reason
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:37:11] <Jesse_Eichar>	ah I see
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:37:16] <Jesse_Eichar>	that is correct it shouldn't be
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:37:18] <gdavis_>	hey jesse, jody told me he moved some 
routing code to a "graph" plugin... any idea what plugin that would be?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:37:47] <Jesse_Eichar>	ah look at the etActiveMap
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:03] <Jesse_Eichar>	that is buggy in that it doesn't 
seem to check the openmaps
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:08] <Jesse_Eichar>	only active maps.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:12] <gdavis_>	sorry, didnt mean to butt into your 
conversation :)
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:17] <Jesse_Eichar>	yes you can send me a review
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:20] <Jesse_Eichar>	np gdaveis
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:24] <Jesse_Eichar>	I have to run anyhow
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:28] <gdavis_>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:45] <emily_g>	okay I'll poke around and sent an email 
to the list if I get lost.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:48] <emily_g>	thanks for your help
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:54] <Jesse_Eichar>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:38:58] <Jesse_Eichar>	talk to you all later
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:39:03] <gdavis_>	ciao
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:39:05] <moovida>	ciao Jesse
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:39:14] <Jesse_Eichar>	sorry to be short
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:39:32] <moovida>	is there anyone here that would like to 
talk about building udig & friends with maven
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:39:41] <moovida>	runnning tests and so on
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:39:56] <moovida>	mauricio_: you are approaching trunk 
build
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:39:58] <moovida>	?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:40:04] <Jesse_Eichar>	we can talk tomorrow if you'd like 
moovida
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:40:20] <moovida>	that would be good for me if you can be 
there
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:40:25] <moovida>	even better
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:40:31] <emily_g>	I don't have much experience in that 
area
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:40:32] <moovida>	I'm still fuzzy from traveling
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:40:43] <mauricio_>	I think could be interesting a build 
with maven
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:40:59] <moovida>	I would like to setup an environment to 
do so
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:41:11] <moovida>	ok, then should we talk tomorrow with 
Jesse?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:41:27] <moovida>	if anyone has good links to read, please 
share
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:41:38] <moovida>	I will start here: 
http://www.eclipse.org/articles/article.php?file=Article-Eclipse-and-
Maven2/index.html
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:42:10] <mauricio_>	good
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:42:15] <moovida>	Jesse_Eichar: a preferred time for 
meeting?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:42:21] <mauricio_>	I will read
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:42:24] <moovida>	mauricio_: same for you
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:43:13] <moovida>	ok, if no preference I'ld say same time
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:43:15] <moovida>	?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:43:57] <mauricio_>	sorry what time?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:44:03] <moovida>	17.00?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:44:06] <mauricio_>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:44:14] <moovida>	but if you have other ideas, just tell
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:44:17] <moovida>	can be earlier
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:44:48] <mauricio_>	well I prefer 15:00
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:45:05] <mauricio_>	is that posible?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:45:16] <moovida>	for me yes
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:45:23] <moovida>	Jesse_Eichar: you already gone?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:46:29] <moovida>	ok, we will hear Jesse later.
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:46:38] <mauricio_>	moovidea, have you any experience with 
maven and eclipse rcp?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:47:23] <moovida>	no, I just read a documentation about 
maven, testng and continous integration
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:47:32] <moovida>	and really want to go for that
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:47:42] <mauricio_>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:47:50] <moovida>	so I would be glad if someone would join 
the efforth
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:47:57] <moovida>	you have experience?
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:48:06] <mauricio_>	no
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[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:48:19] <moovida>	great!, so we are ready to start :)
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:48:22] <mauricio_>	but I think that could be great for 
udig
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:48:38] <moovida>	absolutely, we should really get there
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:48:57] <moovida>	in Jgrass we now start to review, do 
unit tests and javadoc
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:49:04] <moovida>	and we need tools to blame us
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:49:13] <moovida>	but the same I'm sure is for udig
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:49:22] <moovida>	so if that could go in one
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:49:35] <mauricio_>	right
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:49:38] <mauricio_>	I see
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:49:59] <moovida>	also I would like to have a udig product 
in every moment
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:50:04] <moovida>	always working
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:50:55] <moovida>	ok, I would say that we fix for tomorrow 
at 15.00
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:51:02] <moovida>	if no one disagrees
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:51:03] <mauricio_>	ok
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:51:07] <mauricio_>	see you
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:51:46] <moovida>	great, ciao
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:51:56] <moovida>	I'll drop a mail to Jesse
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:52:04] <mauricio_>	ciao :)
[Thu Nov 6 2008] [17:52:52] <moovida>	ciao
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On Friday 07 November 2008 00:18:04 Jody Garnett wrote:
> Remember to post the logs :-) We actually could not find the logs from a
> couple weeks ago; do you have a copy to post jesse?
> Jody
>
> Jesse Eichar wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I'm going to be online at 1700 UTC+1 for the uDig meeting if any one
> > needs to chat
> >
> > Jesse
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://udig.refractions.net
> > http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>
> _______________________________________________
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