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Re: [sumo-user] Container stops/parking
Thank you, although I don't really get your answer. Can you elaborate?

Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx> (időpont: 2023. márc. 28., K, 13:39) ezt írta:
There is now an example scenario that demonstrates TWTL simulation at https://sumo.dlr.de/extractTest.php?path=sumo/extended/bidiEdge/TWLT
It require the latest nightly version as of tomorrow: (https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Downloads.php#nightly_snapshots)

Am Mo., 27. März 2023 um 13:40 Uhr schrieb Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx>:
w.r.t the origional question: There isn't currently an official way for doing TWTL in SUMO.
One approach is to have two lanes on top of each other (one for each direction).
Some details on how to set up the geometry are here: :https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Rerouter.html#reversible_lanes

In the latest release we also have experimental support for defining bidirectional lanes. You still have two lanes on top of each other but they are linked logically by setting attribute ('bidi') so cars can actually *see* each other and brake / collide.

Am Mo., 27. März 2023 um 13:35 Uhr schrieb Haritonov Alexander <haritonov.alexander@xxxxxxxxx>:
If you can manage, join us at the sumo user conference in Berlin and have a beer together! (https://www.eclipse.org/sumo/conference/)—>I wish…

The wording is a bit… —> thank you, I get it!


Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx> (időpont: 2023. márc. 27., H, 13:23) ezt írta:
> is it possible to assign one stop to multiple routes?

The wording is a bit ambigous since SUMO distinguishes between infrastructure (i.e. busStop, parkingArea etc) and the intent of stopping somewhere for a configurable duration (i.e. at a busStop or anywhere on an edge).  The infrastructure can of course be re-used by all vehicles or named routes.
If multiple vehicles use the same route (with route="routeID") they can also re-use the <stop> elements defined in that route.

> is there any way to thank you for all the help and support that you provide?

If you can manage, join us at the sumo user conference in Berlin and have a beer together! (https://www.eclipse.org/sumo/conference/)


Am Mo., 27. März 2023 um 12:51 Uhr schrieb Haritonov Alexander <haritonov.alexander@xxxxxxxxx>:
Also, is it possible to assign one stop to multiple routes? And more importantly, is there any way to thank you for all the help and support that you provide?

Haritonov Alexander <haritonov.alexander@xxxxxxxxx> ezt írta (időpont: 2023. márc. 27., H, 11:38):
Yes!

Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx> ezt írta (időpont: 2023. márc. 27., Hét 11:33):

Am Mo., 27. März 2023 um 09:33 Uhr schrieb Haritonov Alexander <haritonov.alexander@xxxxxxxxx>:
I would like to achieve something like this(yellow): image.png

Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx> ezt írta (időpont: 2023. márc. 26., V, 12:41):
You can change lane markings to indicate lane changing permissions. (see attributes changeLeft, changeRight, https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Networks/PlainXML.html#lane-specific_definitions).
Your image doesn't really make clear what you ultimately want to achieve with the lane markings though.

Am Fr., 24. März 2023 um 14:52 Uhr schrieb Haritonov Alexander <haritonov.alexander@xxxxxxxxx>:
Hi!
issue.jpg
can you change the lane marking of a road

Haritonov Alexander <haritonov.alexander@xxxxxxxxx> ezt írta (időpont: 2023. márc. 24., P, 8:54):
Thank you! This is exactly what i needed

Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx> (időpont: 2023. márc. 24., P, 8:34) ezt írta:

Am Do., 23. März 2023 um 18:28 Uhr schrieb The div <div@xxxxxxxx>:
Eventually perhaps - those container baggage etc flows work fine, i'm in the middle of adding departing passengers.

I don't think its suitable as a tutorial though - too many trips - I'm trying to model a day at Heathrow!

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On Thursday, March 23rd, 2023 at 16:24, Haritonov Alexander <haritonov.alexander@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sounds interesting. Can you send me a project file?

The div <div@xxxxxxxx> ezt írta (időpont: 2023. márc. 23., Csü 16:52):
Have just been playing with container flows - involving aircraft modelled as trains and baggage trucks modelled as trucks: (tranship is used to get from road to rail and vice versa) - bContainer is just a container type with a smaller size to emulate aircraft pallets

a) vehicle triggered by arrival of a container:
this approach means that only one container is involved in the end to end flow - even though the triggered vehicle carries 6

<container id="containerBA1414" type="bContainer" depart="24279">
<stop containerStop="ct_t5baggageDrop" duration="10" /> <!-- simulating baggage drop off in terminal 5 -->
<tranship containerStop="ct_t5baggage"/> <!-- loading onto baggage truck -->
<transport to="-b509" arrivalPos="38" lines="cBaggageBA1414"/> <!-- transport to road by aircraft stand 509 -->
<tranship to="stand509"/> <!-- move from road edge to rail edge-->
<transport to="27L#23" lines="BA1414"/> <!-- transport in aircraft from stand to runway 27L takeoff-->
</container>
<trip id="cBaggageBA1414" type="baggage" depart="containerTriggered" containerNumber="6" from="-379842549#6" to="-379842549#6" via="-b509" >
<stop containerStop="ct_t5baggage" duration="1" /> <!--baggage truck stopping at T5 -->
<stop lane="-b509_0" endPos="38" parking="true" duration="2" /> <!--baggage truck stopping adjacent to stand 509 -->
</trip>

b) 14 containers in vehicle (BA273) with flow to vehicle (baggageBA246) triggered by arrival of vehicle (BA273), transport of container(s) to T5 then onto baggage reclaim. In this case all containers are involved in the flow. Flight change is because landing flight BA246 leaves as BA273 - whilst stop durations are 1 the actual stop time is set by the loading duration.

<trip id="baggageBA246" type="baggage" depart="24360" from="-379842549#6" to="-379842549#6" via="b594-5" >
<stop lane="b594-5_0" endPos="105" parking="true" duration="822" /> <!--truck waiting for container to arrive m -->
<stop containerStop="ct_t5baggage" friendlyPos="true" parking="true" duration="1" /> <!-- truck stopping at T5 to unload -->
</trip>

<trip id="BA273" type="A35K" depart="24360" from="27R#19" to="27L#23" via="27R#6 stand594 Taxiway_A-8#14 -N2E#1 27L#4" departSpeed="max" arrivalSpeed="53">
<stop lane="stand594_0" endPos="119" friendlyPos="true" until="47460" /> <!-- aircraft stopping at stand 594 -->
<stop lane="27L#4_0" endPos="60" duration="60"/> <!-- aircraft stopping at start of runway 27L before takeoff -->
</trip>

<containerFlow id="cBA246" type="bContainer" begin="triggered" number="14" >
<transport from="27R#19" trainStop="ts_stand594" lines="BA273"/> <!-- baggage landing on runway 27R - carried to stand 594 -->
<tranship from="stand594" to="b594-5" arrivalPos="105"/> <!-- baggage moving from rail edge to road edge -->
<transport containerStop="ct_t5baggage" lines="baggageBA246"/> <!-- baggage being carried to T5 by baggage truck -->
<tranship containerStop="ct_t5baggageReclaim"/> <!-- baggage magically moving to baggage reclaim :) ->
</containerFlow>

cheers
Div

------- Original Message -------
On Thursday, March 23rd, 2023 at 14:07, Haritonov Alexander <haritonov.alexander@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi!

Can anyone point me into the right direction! I am strugling to find a tutorial for container flow/stop or parking. Basically I have to simulate a truck entering in a site at a certain point, load the goods at another point, wait…and leave at an exit.
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