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Dear Jakob,

Sorry for last message,as it doesn't fine reference of questions.

Please throw some light on this

Reference of question :
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Dear listing,
I am using following tools :
1. Sumolib
2. Traci
My flow to get the shortest path is :

Net.xml file > Convert to Graph using sumolib > Get the Adjecency matrix >
apply ant colony/ Dijkstra algorithm on this matrix.

Up to this i got successfully execution. (If someone needs code plz email
me personally)

Query : I want to make experiments on how the Ant colony performs in
traffic.

As I have converted graph to adjacency matrix and apply ACO on this. How to
code the effect of traffic on the finding of shortest path?
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Thanks in Advance
Bijal Varia


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Today's Topics:

   1. Questions on the vehicle models (Jonathon Beauregard II)
   2. Re: Questions on the vehicle models (Jakob Erdmann)
   3. Re: Questions on the vehicle models (Jonathon Beauregard II)
   4. Query : How to do? (Bijal)


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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 15:13:29 -0500
From: Jonathon Beauregard II <jbeauregard2@xxxxxxxxx>
To: sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sumo-user] Questions on the vehicle models
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Hello, this is my first time attempting something like this, so please feel
free to let me know if I violate some etiquette I am unaware of.
I am a part time master's student, and I am early into my thesis. Still
going through the literature, writing my proposal.

I am looking at the vehicle models, car following and lane changing. And I
have a few questions still burning that I could use some guidance on.

Are any of these models 'human'? Or are these models more autonomous?

Are there different models that represent different levels of autonomy? I
am referring to the NHTSA levels. Would various parameter changes within a
specific model, change it's classification?

Thank you for taking the time to read this, many thanks!

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Jonathon Beauregard II
1-318-497-1798

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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 22:40:03 +0200
From: Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [sumo-user] Questions on the vehicle models
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Hello,
the question is well phrased, yet hard to answer.
The default car following model 'Krauss' was written with the intention of
creating a simple model that recreates macroscopic traffic properties
(fundamental diagram). As far as I know distinctions between
human/autonomous drivers were out of the scope at that time.
Other models such as the Wiedemann model were intended to capture
perception effects of human drivers.
Generally, I would say the models were not built with the distinction
human/autonomous in mind. Instead they were intended to capture qualitative
effects of traffic (why do cars change their lane?, what is a safe
following distance) and to allow for flexible calibration.
There are some developments in Sumo such as the driver-state device which
are intended to make the driving behavior more human. However, this part of
the development is still ongoing (https://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Driver_State).
Most of the models allow a wide range of different behaviors which can be
used to model various assumptions on how humans and autonomous vehicles
might differ (preferred headway, reaction time, rule compliance,
imperfection).
The takeover-of-control device (https://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/ToC_Device) can be
used to model certain effects at levels 3 and 4.

regards,
Jakob


Am Sa., 27. Apr. 2019 um 22:13 Uhr schrieb Jonathon Beauregard II <
jbeauregard2@xxxxxxxxx>:

> Hello, this is my first time attempting something like this, so please
> feel free to let me know if I violate some etiquette I am unaware of.
> I am a part time master's student, and I am early into my thesis. Still
> going through the literature, writing my proposal.
>
> I am looking at the vehicle models, car following and lane changing. And I
> have a few questions still burning that I could use some guidance on.
>
> Are any of these models 'human'? Or are these models more autonomous?
>
> Are there different models that represent different levels of autonomy? I
> am referring to the NHTSA levels. Would various parameter changes within a
> specific model, change it's classification?
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read this, many thanks!
>
> --
> Jonathon Beauregard II
> 1-318-497-1798
>
> linkedin.com/in/jbeauregard2
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 18:23:58 -0500
From: Jonathon Beauregard II <jbeauregard2@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [sumo-user] Questions on the vehicle models
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Thanks, this is helpful.

I will come back with further questions later.

On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 3:40 PM Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hello,
> the question is well phrased, yet hard to answer.
> The default car following model 'Krauss' was written with the intention of
> creating a simple model that recreates macroscopic traffic properties
> (fundamental diagram). As far as I know distinctions between
> human/autonomous drivers were out of the scope at that time.
> Other models such as the Wiedemann model were intended to capture
> perception effects of human drivers.
> Generally, I would say the models were not built with the distinction
> human/autonomous in mind. Instead they were intended to capture qualitative
> effects of traffic (why do cars change their lane?, what is a safe
> following distance) and to allow for flexible calibration.
> There are some developments in Sumo such as the driver-state device which
> are intended to make the driving behavior more human. However, this part of
> the development is still ongoing (https://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Driver_State).
> Most of the models allow a wide range of different behaviors which can be
> used to model various assumptions on how humans and autonomous vehicles
> might differ (preferred headway, reaction time, rule compliance,
> imperfection).
> The takeover-of-control device (https://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/ToC_Device) can
> be used to model certain effects at levels 3 and 4.
>
> regards,
> Jakob
>
>
> Am Sa., 27. Apr. 2019 um 22:13 Uhr schrieb Jonathon Beauregard II <
> jbeauregard2@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> Hello, this is my first time attempting something like this, so please
>> feel free to let me know if I violate some etiquette I am unaware of.
>> I am a part time master's student, and I am early into my thesis. Still
>> going through the literature, writing my proposal.
>>
>> I am looking at the vehicle models, car following and lane changing. And
>> I have a few questions still burning that I could use some guidance on.
>>
>> Are any of these models 'human'? Or are these models more autonomous?
>>
>> Are there different models that represent different levels of autonomy? I
>> am referring to the NHTSA levels. Would various parameter changes within a
>> specific model, change it's classification?
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to read this, many thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Jonathon Beauregard II
>> 1-318-497-1798
>>
>> linkedin.com/in/jbeauregard2
>> _______________________________________________
>> sumo-user mailing list
>> sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe
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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:39:46 +0530
From: Bijal <bijal.varia88@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [sumo-user] Query : How to do?
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Dear listing,

I am using following tools :
1. Sumolib
2. Traci

My flow to get the shortest path is :

Net.xml file > Convert to Graph using sumolib > Get the Adjecency matrix >
apply ant colony/ Dijkstra algorithm on this matrix.

Up to this i got successfully execution. (If someone needs code plz email
me personally)

Query : I want to make experiments on how the Ant colony performs in
traffic.

As I have converted graph to adjacency matrix and apply ACO on this. How to
code the effect of traffic on the finding of shortest path?

Thanks in Advance
Bijal Varia

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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 20:24:16 -0500
> From: Paolo Camacho <pacara.1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [sumo-user] HELP ME!
> Message-ID:
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> hi
>
> I have been trying to get graphics that allow me to visualize indicators of
> simulation results, but I have not been successful.
>
> first, with sumo generate several output files with the following options:
>
> --summary
> --netstate-dump
> --queue
>
> then when I try to open these files in sumo gui I get the following errors
>
> Error: simpleType ':nonNegativeFloat' for attribute 'time' not found
>  In file 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> copia\SIMURESUMEN'
>  At line/column 16/80.
>
> *Loading edgedata from 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 -
> copia - copia\SIMURESUMEN' Found 0 attributes: *
> *Error: simpleType ':nonNegativeFloat' for attribute 'time' not found*
> * In file 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> copia\SIMURESUMEN'*
> * At line/column 16/80.*
>
> *Loading of C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> copia\SIMURESUMEN failed.*
>
> If you could help me with the procedure to follow to graphically represent
> the indicators of a simulation scenario, I would appreciate it ...
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 12:31:26 +0200
> From: Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [sumo-user] HELP ME!
> Message-ID:
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>
> Something is wrong with the xml validation. Try starting sumo with option
> --xml-validation never
> and then load the edgeData file
>
> Am Sa., 27. Apr. 2019 um 03:24 Uhr schrieb Paolo Camacho <
> pacara.1@xxxxxxxxx
> >:
>
> > hi
> >
> > I have been trying to get graphics that allow me to visualize indicators
> > of simulation results, but I have not been successful.
> >
> > first, with sumo generate several output files with the following
> options:
> >
> > --summary
> > --netstate-dump
> > --queue
> >
> > then when I try to open these files in sumo gui I get the following
> errors
> >
> > Error: simpleType ':nonNegativeFloat' for attribute 'time' not found
> >  In file 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> > copia\SIMURESUMEN'
> >  At line/column 16/80.
> >
> > *Loading edgedata from 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 -
> > copia - copia\SIMURESUMEN' Found 0 attributes: *
> > *Error: simpleType ':nonNegativeFloat' for attribute 'time' not found*
> > * In file 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> > copia\SIMURESUMEN'*
> > * At line/column 16/80.*
> >
> > *Loading of C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> > copia\SIMURESUMEN failed.*
> >
> > If you could help me with the procedure to follow to graphically
> represent
> > the indicators of a simulation scenario, I would appreciate it ...
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sumo-user mailing list
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> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 07:52:38 -0500
> From: Paolo Camacho <pacara.1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [sumo-user] HELP ME!
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> Jakob, thank you very much for your answers
>
> After trying this option, the same error keeps appearing...
>
> El s?b., 27 abr. 2019 a las 5:31, Jakob Erdmann (<namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx>)
> escribi?:
>
> > Something is wrong with the xml validation. Try starting sumo with option
> > --xml-validation never
> > and then load the edgeData file
> >
> > Am Sa., 27. Apr. 2019 um 03:24 Uhr schrieb Paolo Camacho <
> > pacara.1@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> >> hi
> >>
> >> I have been trying to get graphics that allow me to visualize indicators
> >> of simulation results, but I have not been successful.
> >>
> >> first, with sumo generate several output files with the following
> options:
> >>
> >> --summary
> >> --netstate-dump
> >> --queue
> >>
> >> then when I try to open these files in sumo gui I get the following
> errors
> >>
> >> Error: simpleType ':nonNegativeFloat' for attribute 'time' not found
> >>  In file 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> >> copia\SIMURESUMEN'
> >>  At line/column 16/80.
> >>
> >> *Loading edgedata from 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32
> -
> >> copia - copia\SIMURESUMEN' Found 0 attributes: *
> >> *Error: simpleType ':nonNegativeFloat' for attribute 'time' not found*
> >> * In file 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> >> copia\SIMURESUMEN'*
> >> * At line/column 16/80.*
> >>
> >> *Loading of C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> >> copia\SIMURESUMEN failed.*
> >>
> >> If you could help me with the procedure to follow to graphically
> >> represent the indicators of a simulation scenario, I would appreciate
> it ...
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> sumo-user mailing list
> >> sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2019 15:42:53 +0200
> From: Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Sumo project User discussions <sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [sumo-user] HELP ME!
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> Please send me the input files for reproducing this error (net.xml and
> edgedata)
>
> Am Sa., 27. Apr. 2019 um 14:53 Uhr schrieb Paolo Camacho <
> pacara.1@xxxxxxxxx
> >:
>
> > Jakob, thank you very much for your answers
> >
> > After trying this option, the same error keeps appearing...
> >
> > El s?b., 27 abr. 2019 a las 5:31, Jakob Erdmann (<namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx
> >)
> > escribi?:
> >
> >> Something is wrong with the xml validation. Try starting sumo with
> option
> >> --xml-validation never
> >> and then load the edgeData file
> >>
> >> Am Sa., 27. Apr. 2019 um 03:24 Uhr schrieb Paolo Camacho <
> >> pacara.1@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>
> >>> hi
> >>>
> >>> I have been trying to get graphics that allow me to visualize
> indicators
> >>> of simulation results, but I have not been successful.
> >>>
> >>> first, with sumo generate several output files with the following
> >>> options:
> >>>
> >>> --summary
> >>> --netstate-dump
> >>> --queue
> >>>
> >>> then when I try to open these files in sumo gui I get the following
> >>> errors
> >>>
> >>> Error: simpleType ':nonNegativeFloat' for attribute 'time' not found
> >>>  In file 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> >>> copia\SIMURESUMEN'
> >>>  At line/column 16/80.
> >>>
> >>> *Loading edgedata from 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32
> >>> - copia - copia\SIMURESUMEN' Found 0 attributes: *
> >>> *Error: simpleType ':nonNegativeFloat' for attribute 'time' not found*
> >>> * In file 'C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> >>> copia\SIMURESUMEN'*
> >>> * At line/column 16/80.*
> >>>
> >>> *Loading of C:\Users\Paolo Camacho\Sumo\2019-02-14-21-04-32 - copia -
> >>> copia\SIMURESUMEN failed.*
> >>>
> >>> If you could help me with the procedure to follow to graphically
> >>> represent the indicators of a simulation scenario, I would appreciate
> it ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> sumo-user mailing list
> >>> sumo-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
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