Re: [servlet-dev] Release staged 5.0.0 to Maven Central

[Mark Thomas <markt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 21/07/2020 18:25, Kevin Sutter wrote:
> Mark,
> What other naming conventions are you referring to?  The discussion on
> the call is that the trailing ".api" on some of the other proposed
> module names was wrong and should be removed.

On what basis?

Naming conventions are documented here:
https://wiki.eclipse.org/JakartaEE_Maven_Versioning_Rules

That explicitly states JPMS module names are excluded.

The most recent discussion of JPMS names of which I am aware is this one:
https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-spec-project-leads/msg00389.html

If a formal decision has been made on JPMS names since then I don't
recall seeing it. Given the lists I am subscribed to I would have
expected to see any proposed naming policy and/or discussion about said
policy and/or announcement of such policy.

Absent a formal decision, my recommendation continues to be "Take the
OSGI symbolic name and replace any "-" with ".". For servlet that gives
"jakarta.servlet.api"

Mark



  For example, jsp and el
> were identified as having this ".api" suffix.  
> 
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> From:        Mark Thomas <markt@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To:        servlet-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Date:        07/21/2020 11:40
> Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [servlet-dev] Release staged 5.0.0 to
> Maven Central
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> 
> On 21/07/2020 17:29, arjan tijms wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was looking at the spreadsheet already. I'll do a PR for
>> "jakarta.servlet" then.
> 
> jakarta.servlet.api would be consistent with the other naming conventions.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Arjan
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:21 PM Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>>     Hi,
>>     As an FYI, I just posted this to the Specification PR for Servlet
>>     5.0
>>     (https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pull/232#issuecomment-661953843):
>> 
>>     _@arjantijms_ <https://github.com/arjantijms>, on the _Platform call
>>     today_
>>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EJ2ilaPhMnQqa3aw6AmwjRbBPGL3_np4uuwklgfqPZI/edit#>,
>>     we discussed the Automatic Module names. We discovered a couple of
>>     components that have an "incorrect" automatic module name specified.
>>     Servlet is one of them. In the _servlet api pom file_
>>     <https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/servlet-api/blob/master/api/pom.xml>,
>>     it is generating an automatic module name of "java.servlet". To be
>>     consistent with the package name update, this should be
>>     "jakarta.servlet". There is an active discussion whether these type
>>     of updates need to be done for Jakarta EE 9 or not. For these cases
>>     where the javaprefix is being used instead of jakarta, I think they
>>     should be.
>>     This would require a respin of the Servlet 5.0.0 API jar file.
>>     FYI, besides Servlet, we have also found Transactions,
>>     Authentication, and Authorization in the same boat. There may be
>>     more. _@keilw_ <https://github.com/keilw>is continuing the
>>     investigation by updating _this spreadsheet_
>>     <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g8jYG0JixO3wzZkpeyU1LMIQRhbnZ76kGtdMFE8mieE/edit#gid=0>.
>> 
>>     Thanks.
>> 
>>     ---------------------------------------------------
>>     Kevin Sutter
>>     STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
>>     e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>     Twitter:
>>      @kwsutter
>>     phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
>>     LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     From:        arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>     To:        servlet developer discussions <servlet-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:servlet-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>     Date:        07/21/2020 10:34
>>     Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [servlet-dev] Release staged 5.0.0 to
>>     Maven Central
>>     Sent by:        servlet-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>     <mailto:servlet-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 4:31 PM Mark Thomas <_markt@apache.org_
>>     <mailto:markt@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>>     Agreed.
>> 
>>     I'm going to assume there aren't going to be any objections and start
>>     work on a PR.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     Okay, great! I'll keep an eye out on that and will restage 5.0.0
>>     then and re-run the TCK.
>> 
>>     Thanks!
>> 
>>     Kind regards,
>>     Arjan
>> 
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