| Re: [rt-pmc] co-lead position rt-pmc |
+1 to Glyn being co-lead. I still value Christian's input into the PMC and think he gives a different perspective than most of us on the PMC.
Tom
Glyn Normington ---11/22/2012 02:48:29 AM---+1 ?! Regards,
From: Glyn Normington <gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 11/22/2012 02:48 AM
Subject: Re: [rt-pmc] co-lead position rt-pmc
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Subject: Re: [rt-pmc] co-lead position rt-pmc
Ok, ok. I accept Christian's nomination. I guess someone knows what process is now required. Tom?
Regards,
Glyn
On 21 Nov 2012, at 16:15, Jesse McConnell wrote:
well, since we have no current direction or defined future for RT that
should be pretty easy :)
hopefully that issue will be put to bed once and for all at the
eclipse con panel!
jesse
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Glyn Normington
<gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Isn't it also part of the co-lead job to stand up at EclipseCon and attempt
RT? I guess I can say "I have no idea" as well as the next person, but I'd
rather not volunteer for that in the first place.
But, seriously, if all that is required is to stand in for Tom when he can't
make RT PMC calls and continue to make not completely incoherent noises
about release trains etc., then I could be persuaded. (The beer has nothing
to do with my position, although I'm not saying no to that.)
Regards,
Glyn
On 21 Nov 2012, at 14:54, Campo, Christian wrote:
I think Glyn is already a very active person in rt-pmc. He initiated and
contributes to many of the current topics. Glyn is in most telcos. It would
only be a very small step for him to be co-lead. Maybe a little more than
just getting access to the moderator code of the telcos but not much more.
:-) Ok and then if Tom is not in the telco you have to do the minutes.
(happened to me ONCE in over a year)
Making you, Glyn co-lead is in my view more an acknowledgement of the work
you are already doing. I know you take these kind of committments very
seriously but this not a committment until the end of time. Having two
people leading a group has the advantage that "life" continues even if only
one lead is present in a call or in a meeting.
And I can buy you a beer on ECE2013 if that makes a difference :-)
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I agree Glyn would be excellent
I know he has just turned down the nomination however I would also +1 him
and perhaps you (Christian) can detail out more of the role of what co-lead
does such that we could lull him into the role.
cheers,
jesse
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Glyn Normington <gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Christian
I think one of your strengths in being a co-lead is that you do
understand the IDE side of things as well as being deeply involved in
RT. You also know Riena, which probably puts you in a minority in the
RT PMC! However, I know what it feels like when the topics constantly
under discussion are not personally very relevant, so I understand you
wanting to stand down.
I'm pleased that some people, including yourself, think I would make a
good co-lead. I admit to being interested in the current topics of
discussion from a Virgo perspective. However, that doesn't mean I
therefore have sufficient time to take on a co-lead role. I'm spread
pretty thin at the moment trying to keep Gemini Blueprint going and
working the rest of the time on Virgo, so I'm afraid I'll need to
pass. I will however provide all the back-up I can to Tom, especially
on the current topics. I just don't have the time to gen up on the
various RT projects in order to take on tasks like speaking
authoritatively on behalf of Eclipse RT at conferences. Maybe we all feel
that way?
Regards,
Glyn
On 21 Nov 2012, at 08:27, Campo, Christian wrote:
Hi,
I have been think about this for a while. The rt-pmc members voted for
me as a co-lead for the RT-PMC last year. I really appreciated the
trust that you guys put in me.
However I currently have the feeling that a lot of rt-pmc topics sort
of pass by me. There are pain points for RT projects like Maven,
Release Train or LTS that I currently dont feel so much myself. I feel
that am unable to be a lot of help and I am proposing that someone
other who is more affected and concerned about the current pain points takes
over from here.
I think Tom is doing a wonderful job leading us but I feel very unable
and unefficient in backing him up. So that makes me think that someone
like Glyn would serve us much better as co-lead (if he likes to do
that)
Pain Points that I have are more along the lines of how can we move
Riena to e4. We just finished that and Riena will rejoin the Kepler
composite repo for M4.
Its not that I am pulling back ressources from Eclipse at all. I still
like to be in the rt-pmc and I am also program chair for ECE 2013
which will be again a lot of work.
My observation is just that I am currently not a good co-lead for the
rt-pmc.
Who likes to do it instead ?
Christian Campo
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