Re: [ptp-dev] Apple/Java?

[Roland Schulz <roland@xxxxxxx>]

Actually I'm more worried about what Oracle is doing:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/25/doug_lea_oracle_jcp_stuffing/

Gosling gone, suing Google, not giving license to Harmony, stuffing JCP ...

As ASF president says it is too early to say where Java is going under Oracle but it doesn't look good. Especially not if OpenSolaris, OpenOffice is any indicator.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Roland Schulz <roland@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't recommend dual-boot. It's a hassle. Buy enough RAM and use virtualization (e.g. virtualbox is free). If you have enough RAM it is almost (~95%) as fast and you don't need to reboot. I do most my work inside a virtual machine. 

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Albert L. Rossi <arossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

P.S., I'm sure some of you have dual-booted Linux on a MacBook Pro.  Anything problematic?

----- Albert L. Rossi <arossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This seems to be the most hopeful thing to think at this point.  Some see it as an advantage, given the habitual release lag time for the Apple JVMs.  It would make a certain amount of sense that Apple turn over is JVM code to Oracle.
>
> As to the reason for all this, the security holes are indeed problematic, but I'm afraid Dieter is right in pointing out that it doesn't seem to stop with the JVM ... banning all non-conforming apps is clearly and anti-competitive move.
>
> So, it's hope for the best but start thinking about the Linux box I may have to develop on in the near future (you'll never get me on a Windows machine again).
>
> Al
> ----- Greg Watson <g.watson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I think an interesting point is that no other platform does it's own jvm. Sun/Oracle provide the Linux/windows versions, so it seems likely they'll also provide a Lion version.
> >
> > On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:01 PM, "Albert L. Rossi" <arossi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Here's another post.
> > >
> > > http://www.infoq.com/news/2010/10/apple-deprecates-java
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Dieter <dieter.krachtus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> Does this really come as a surprise? I remember Jobs trashing Java as
> > >> the big ball and chain, being a huge topic of discussion at
> > >> Eclipsecon2007. When OSX 10.0 was released Apple was on the brink of
> > >> irrelevance and happy to broaden their platform with Java. Today,
> > >> their walled garden might kick out Java in 10.7 and depending on the
> > >> success of their OSX appstore, all non-conform apps and development
> > >> tools in 10.8. Brave new world!
> > >>
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