RE: RE: [platform-swt-dev] org.eclipse.swt.SWT

["Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: Erik Poupaert
>
> He, wait a minute. I'm not an SWT developer.

I was using the royal "you".  <smile>


> But then again, I don't like the distinction "end user" -- "beta
> tester" --
> "developer". This is an open source project. Everybody should be
> allowed to
> contribute in the way he can. So we're all users and developers
> alike. That
> is a large part of the appeal of SWT.

For you.  I'm a businessman.  And the appeal of a tool is that it makes it
easier for me to developer applications for my end users.  "Geek chic"
doesn't cut it for me.


> Swing may be conceptually a bit more
> advanced than SWT, but where is the source? And where are the people
> contributing? Where is the fun? I just can't be bothered with things like
> Swing. I probably wouldn't even do Java, if it weren't for GCJ.

And that's why you and I see these things differently.  As to source, it's
available on the Sun site anytime.  The Swing community is active and
talking and adding things to the project.  And there are always people
developing things for and with Swing.  It's just not the same open source
community.

Then again, where's the source for SWT?  Where's the source for the DLL?


> Broad acceptance will come with the appearance of nifty, well-done
> applications that use SWT. People need to be motivated to learn. The best
> way to motivate someone to learn, is to show him what he will be
> able to do,
> after he took the effort of learning. Eclipse could stand as such example,
> but it's unfortunately a bit too far away from the application downstream
> developers usually write.

Chicken and egg.  Who is going to write those nifty applications?  Without
broad appeal, not many people, and certainly very few commercial
enterprises.  How many truly nifty graphical non-commercial applications are
there?  Um.  WinAmp was one.  Pretty cool.  And then... not much.


> >>>> I'm still not sure what the "right" way is to tell
> >>>> my window to repaint itself when I change the contents of a label.
>
> That's probably more of a bug that anything else. If I do
> Label.setText(String) it works as expected.

Do the following:

Set the text to "".
Pack your window.
Set the text to something else.

See what happens?  Nothing.  Until you resize the window.

Joe