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Re: [oniro-wg] Roadmap: work on the proposal for oniro-core (goofy)
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Hello,
On Monday, February 14, 2022 11:54:47 AM CET Davide Ricci wrote:
> Hi Agustin,
>
> If you could setup the wg dedicated subproject Amit and I can crate in there
> the necessary boards / epic so we can then meet, show you what we got and
> the current process, discuss / document it and in parallel we would then
> process with goofy roadmap / epic loading as well as SC related processes.
>
> I think we will realistically have a goofy roadmap approval somewhere in
> march - with periodic updates and quarterly go - no go meetings for the
> three main milestones ahead of us.
>
> In order to get there, we want to start the decomposition / effort estimate
> work directly in gitlab - such work will likely carry on for the following
> 2-3 weeks - in time for a goofy dev kick off directly on eclipse gitlab
> first / second week of march.
>
> Let us tentatively meet on Wed morning assuming Amit and I had access to the
> wg subproject and have made enough progress to show the process and the
> demo epics.
I suggest to split the effort into two parts:
* Roadmap content.
* Roadmapping process.
## Roadmap content
Amit and I have spoken earlier today and he is testing the procedures to
create the roadmap content at the Oniro WG level and how the roadmap items can
be related to the technical tasks/roadmap at project level (projects gitlab).
A subproject was created so he can start testing.
Although I would love to participate in this process at this point, I do not
have bandwidth.
## Roadmapping process.
This refers to "the how". How does the input get into the roadmap, who access
and manage the information, how is the roadmap presented and approved at the
Oniro WG SC, what is the scope of the Oniro WG roadmap vs the project ones,
how the coordination will take place...
From what I have seen already, from the different options we can put in place
I believe we will go for something that is unique at EF so I will need, in
addition, to socialise it internally at EF and make sure it meets the core
principles for this topic, just like in the prospects pipeline management
(PPM) process (although there is more freedom of action in this roadmapping
topic for working groups, from what I have seen).
This is the part I would like to work with Sebastian (and who else is best) in
the coming few days so we can put a proposal on the table.
You can follow the work on this second point:
Link: https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/oniro-wg/proposal-incubation-stage-oniro/proposal-incubation-oniro-management/-/issues/5
If the Oniro WG SC is not elected by the time we have the proposal ready, as
we did with the PPM process, I will suggest to seek a general consensus and
start implementing it. We then can have the proposal ratified by the Oniro SC
as soon as possible.
## Conclusion
I think that, this way, and as we did with the PPM process, we can unlink to
some extend the content from the process so we can work in both in
(semi)parallel and have them ready in a short period of time.
Any thoughts?
>
> Cheers
> D
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Agustín Benito Bethencourt
> [mailto:agustin.benito@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: lunedì 14 febbraio
> 2022 10:02
> To: Sebastian Serewa <sebastian.serewa@xxxxxxxxxx>; Amit Kucheria
> <amit.kucheria.ext@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Jaroslaw Marek (Jarek)
> <jaroslaw.marek@xxxxxxxxxx>; Davide Ricci <davide.ricci@xxxxxxxxxx>;
> oniro-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Roadmap: work on the proposal for oniro-core
> (goofy)
>
> Hello Sebastian and Amit,
>
> as you know, one of the attributions of the Working Group is the creation of
> the roadmap (high level). Projects also have to create their own technical
> roadmap. Given the nature of Oniro, where we are trying to create a
> coherent platform, we need to coordinate both.
>
> The goal would be to create the structure that will be approved by the Oniro
> SC in the coming weeks. Davide wrote me that you guys would like to do that
> sooner than later so I propose the following.
>
> We start working on the structure now, we come to agreements, we get the
> general consensus and they are ratified by the Oniro SC in the first
> occasion it has.
>
> What do you think?
>
> I believe you already have some ideas implemented for Goofy, the coming
> release.
>
> Can we meet so we evaluate and implement them in the Oniro WG repo? This way
> we provide the proposal in a more visual way.
>
> Best Regards
> --
> Agustin Benito Bethencourt
> Oniro Program Manager | Eclipse Foundation Eclipse Foundation: The Community
> for Open Innovation and Collaboration
Best Regards
--
Agustin Benito Bethencourt
Oniro Program Manager | Eclipse Foundation
Eclipse Foundation: The Community for Open Innovation and Collaboration
