Clark - can you
please address these within
reason please? The key
question here is whether we
can ship the iJUG swag to
Eclipse Foundation Germany
without iJUG paying more
money.
Jan - frankly
international shipping in any
significant quantity is simply
a hassle I hope we can avoid
the best we are able or at
least limit it to what is
absolutely necessary. I don’t
know that there is a way
around paying taxes, duties,
etc if you absolutely want
things shipped to you. I am
sure the Foundation will do
what it can, but as a
non-profit it cannot do
anything improper. I suggest
simply having Payara
distribute this swag at
DevNexus. If you want a few
hoodies for yourself, I or Ed
can save it aside and give it
to you in person. That in my
opinion is the most reasonable
path here, pretty much for you
too.
Hi Reza,
first, thank you for supporting
this!
Unfortunately I need some
additional information and could
not get
answers on the last MP Marketing
Meeting:
From where the shipping will be
done?
What is the worth of the shipment?
Which logistic companies are
involved?
When is planed to ship?
Would be able to receive the
shipment free of any charge (to
Germany:
additional transport fees, 19 %
tax, unknown customs percentage)?
As all the involved parties
"optimize" the (in fact: their
part only of
the) process, we are not sure we
are able to receive a swag
delivery in
a reliable way.
The 2021 Swag delivery failed
glorious and a lot of resources
are wasted
already!
To ensure the delivery of the 2022
swag can be received, I want to
pick
it up in person at the Eclipse
Foundation Europe office or
storage in
Darmstadt, Germany (
https://www.eclipse.org/org/foundation/contact.php,
Silvia will be the contact
person).
The other parts of the EF should
be able select the best option to
send
there - I only figured out that
the 2022 MP Swag is not located
there
already.
As I expect the swag shipment from
somewhere (outside the EU) will
not
be free of charge, delivery to the
JavaLand (starting 21st of March)
directly will not be possible
already and a hub somewhere is
necessary
to be in time. Or we have to store
it for JavaLand 2024...
Until the swag creation and
delivery process works end-to-end
up to
reliable receiving, I want to pick
up the swag from the EFE site,
which
is reliable (of course, this is a
local optimum from iJUG
unfortunately).
The current process just do not
work for us, as this is a push
(from the
US?), not a pull where you have at
least the chance to track the
delivery.
Because of a lot of cheating in
past of especially electronics
from
China via Amazon with less worth
declarations, the German customs
is
strict now and also the free
delivery limit has been lowered.
On top, from the business
perspective the additional fees
and required
resources to handle these
international shipments (for
swag!) are
suboptimal.
As a habitant of this planet, I am
shocked that we waste so much
resources for sending enriched
cotton around the globe - the
smarter way
would be sending the design
digitally and print locally (where
possible). This also could take
into account other local standards
like
sizes.
But again, many thanks to you,
Reza, to forward this - hopefully
you
have more success than me in the
past to push this into the right
direction.
And I hope I can spend more
resources to the technical side
(like fixing
vulnerabilities at the moment)
again instead of doing logistics.
;-)
Best,
Jan
Am 03.03.23 um 18:07 schrieb Reza
Rahman:
> Folks,
>
> We are trying to promptly
send out the 2022 swag to all
members as
> agreed. I need shipping
addresses for the following
members for this
> purpose. I also need a phone
number associated with the
shipping
> address, especially for
shipments outside of North
America. Please
> send it to me and Emerson
(copied) privately. Please
indicate if you
> would like to use this
address/phone number going
forward.
>
> * Fujitsu
>
> * iJUG
>
> * Oracle
>
> * Primeton
>
> * Tomitribe
>
> I already have the details
for Atlanta JUG, Garden State JUG,
IBM,
> Payara and Red Hat - thank
you.
>
> I need this by next Friday,
10th March at the very latest.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reza
>
>
>
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