| Re: [jakartaee-tck-dev] Finalizing the TCKs |
https://doodle.com/poll/5byt4ywkzsss9xmn to save? Do I have to create a
doodle account and login?
I am available next week at various times to meet also. I entered some
times last night but now notice that I seem to be used 'doodle'
incorrectly as my entries didn't get saved.
What link or button am I supposed to click on in
https://doodle.com/poll/5byt4ywkzsss9xmn to save? Do I have to create a
doodle account and login?
Thanks,
Scott
On 8/27/20 7:46 PM, Amelia Eiras wrote:
> Cesar,
>
> I adjusted my time for next week's meeting & took back the hour for
> tomorrow. More time to welcome more Jakartees to show up next week is
> fantastic, thank you! :)
> Amelia Eiras
> twitter.com/ameliaeiras <https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras>
> Tribe:http://tomitribe.com <http://tomitribe.com/>
> https://tribestream.io <https://tribestream.io/>
> OSS:http://microprofile.io https://jakarta.ee
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:28 PM Cesar Hernandez
> <chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> @Scott
> Thank you for the information Scoot.
> I forgot you just returned from vacation.
>
> @Ed @Amelia @Scott
> I extended the Doodle for next week because so far the only matching
> date between Ed, Amelia, and myself is tomorrow Friday, Aug 28 at
> 13:00 Pacific Time and I think that will give the chance to Scott to
> fill out the pool too.
>
> --
> Regards
> Cesar Hernandez
> https://twitter.com/CesarHgt
> http://www.tomitribe.com
> https://www.tomitribe.io
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 8:23 PM Scott Marlow <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I am still catching up on tasks myself and haven't yet
> added my
> availability info yet. I definitely want to attend.
>
> More inline below...
>
> On 8/24/20 1:24 PM, Ed Bratt wrote:
> > At one point, I had thought this meeting might be today, but
> I am now
> > busy at noon and 1 PM PDT. Sorry if that was going to be the
> plan.
>
> Good to hear that you also plan to attend Ed (based on
> availability).
>
> >
> > -- Ed
> >
> > On 8/24/2020 9:43 AM, Cesar Hernandez wrote:
> >> Hi Scoot,
> >>
> >> Sorry about the late response. Did I miss the call?
> >>
> >>
> >> No, the doodle pool is still open for entries. So far it
> seems the end
> >> of this week is a potential date. Feel free to fill out the
> pool.
> >>
> >> Also, I would like to add
> >>
> https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2020/august/3.php
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2020/august/3.php__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6cyxaJfs$>
> >>
> >>
> >> I saw the article was just released last Friday,
> congratulations for
> >> such great content!
>
> Thanks! :-)
>
> >> My opinion is that this is definitely something we can build
> from
> >> along with content from the presentation we delivered a
> couple of
> >> months ago.
>
> +100
>
> >>
> >> Do we have any further ideas for allowing contributors
> to update
> >> the wiki? Or is that the idea of having the call?
> >>
> >>
> >> The objective of the call is to plan those strategies that will
> >> include not only wiki contribution but also hands-on community
> >> contribution.
>
> +100
>
> >> Personally speaking, I'm trying also to understand better
> the gaps the
> >> community can contribute to. Base on that I think we can
> plan an execute.
>
> +100, I am learning a lot about the TCK process as we go through
> the
> Jakarta EE 9 release. IMO, there are many things that we
> haven't yet
> experienced in the community and can expect future learning
> opportunities! Some specific areas that I mentioned in the
> above linked
> article and some that I didn't:
>
> 1. Adding new platform tests for existing + new technologies.
> While we
> can look to each SPEC API team to help, IMO, we need more
> community help
> with this.
>
> 2. Updating the JPA DDL/DML scripts
> (https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/tree/master/sql) for
> supported databases for future JPA SPEC releases. Champions for
> each
> supported database (including possibly adding other databases)
> will need
> to step up from the community.
>
> 3. IMO, adding the voice of Jakarta EE developers to our
> Platform TCK
> discussions is also important.
>
> Scott
>
>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >> Cesar Hernandez
> >> https://twitter.com/CesarHgt
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://twitter.com/CesarHgt__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6JjMB_4M$>
> >> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.tomitribe.com__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L64KnyDW0$>
> >> https://www.tomitribe.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.tomitribe.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ptX9qMs$>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:46 AM Scott Marlow
> <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Cesar, all,
> >>
> >> Sorry about the late response. Did I miss the call?
> >>
> >> Also, I would like to add
> >>
> https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2020/august/3.php
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2020/august/3.php__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6cyxaJfs$>
> >>
> >> as potential content for our next call (either to
> reference or to
> >> build
> >> from).
> >>
> >> More inline below.
> >>
> >> On 8/21/20 2:54 PM, Cesar Hernandez wrote:
> >> > I saw already a couple of entries in the doodle pool.
> >> > I think Monday, Aug 24 noon PT would be a good time to
> check
> >> calendar
> >> > matches and send the meeting invite for those who
> filled the
> >> doodle pool.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Regards
> >> > Cesar Hernandez
> >> > https://twitter.com/CesarHgt
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://twitter.com/CesarHgt__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6JjMB_4M$>
> >> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.tomitribe.com__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L64KnyDW0$>
> >> > https://www.tomitribe.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.tomitribe.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ptX9qMs$>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:37 PM Cesar Hernandez
> >> > <chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> <mailto:chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all!,
> >> >
> >> > I recall we started back in June a Jakarta community
> >> outreach for
> >> > TCK work [1] in the jakartaee-tck-dev mailing list.
> >> >
> >> > This had an initial outcome of participation in a
> Community Call
> >> > explaining what the TCK was and engaging the
> community to
> >> participate.
> >> > Currently, we have a pending dedicated Jakarta
> Tech Talk
> >> about it.
> >> >
> >> > Catching up with this and other threads, It seems TCK
> >> documentation
> >> > wiki has been updated with fresh content [2] that
> can help
> >> to guide
> >> > community participation.
> >> > I want to propose a 45 min call next week with cc:
> >> > jakarta.ee-community mailing list in order to iron the
> >> strategy to
> >> > facilitate and organize the collaboration.
> >> > I just created this doodle to agree on a date and
> time in
> >> case you
> >> > find this useful and want to collaborate:
> >> > https://doodle.com/poll/5byt4ywkzsss9xmn
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doodle.com/poll/5byt4ywkzsss9xmn__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6OZLxoe0$>
> >>
> >> Do we have any further ideas for allowing contributors
> to update the
> >> wiki? Or is that the idea of having the call?
> >>
> >> Thanks for bringing this up!
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >> https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-tck-dev/msg00613.html
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-tck-dev/msg00613.html__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6k6AgSzw$>
> >> > [2]
> >> >
> >>
> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/wiki/Guide-For-Updating-the-TCK-User-Documentation-(Jakarta-EE-9)
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/wiki/Guide-For-Updating-the-TCK-User-Documentation-(Jakarta-EE-9)__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6D4y11mA$>
> >> > --
> >> > Regards
> >> > Cesar Hernandez
> >> > https://twitter.com/CesarHgt
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://twitter.com/CesarHgt__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6JjMB_4M$>
> >> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.tomitribe.com__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L64KnyDW0$>
> >> > https://www.tomitribe.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.tomitribe.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ptX9qMs$>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:46 PM Amelia Eiras
> >> <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I meant to say, the feature to add
> Contributors to any git
> >> > project under the Eclipse Foundation *is a
> reality*
> >> after its
> >> > revival in Q1 of 2019 from an almost 4 years
> sleep - bug.
> >> > The bug took +8 months (well worth time
> prioritizing).
> >> For that
> >> > time & the result, I am most thankful to Chris
> and his
> >> web team.
> >> > Chris is cc'd here as well -- you are amazing
> Chris!!!
> >> >
> >> > I am now motivated to get back to that blog,
> finish it &
> >> publish
> >> > it this month to get more notice *that* such
> formidable
> >> access
> >> > exists and it welcomes active contributors to
> own their
> >> weight
> >> > in any project without being debt to the
> Committers of the
> >> > project. :)
> >> >
> >> > Happy wknd Scott and Jakartees,
> >> > Amelia Eiras
> >> > twitter.com/ameliaeiras <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras>
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>
> >> <https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6mHHn0Sk$>>
> >> > Tribe:http://tomitribe.com
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6_-6QdOU$>
> >> <http://tomitribe.com/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6hGFpImo$>>
> >> > https://tribestream.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ETT_eRA$>
> >> <https://tribestream.io/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6BtXoImg$>>
> >> > OSS:http://microprofile.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://microprofile.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6i05yjyU$>
> >> https://jakarta.ee
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6j8aVRkA$>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:34 PM Amelia Eiras
> >> > <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hola Scott,
> >> >
> >> > I have been researching a few moments
> before closing
> >> my days
> >> > to see a way around this.
> >> > In MicroProfile though I am a committer,
> submitting
> >> PRs are
> >> > the way to go while collaborating on
> documentations.
> >> It is
> >> > easy after forking the repo on my github
> account.
> >> >
> >> > True that
> >> > - to copy/paste changes into a git issue
> to have
> >> others with
> >> > access merge those contributions is poor
> at best OSS
> >> etique
> >> > & won't enhance nor welcome others to
> collaborate.
> >> >
> >> > Current issue is a positive step forward
> for the
> >> Jakarta EE
> >> > TCK about how it chooses to manage community
> >> contributions
> >> > updates in the wiki while still keeping
> healthy
> >> control of
> >> > the space.
> >> >
> >> > Early this year, I -- with the help of
> wonderful
> >> Christopher
> >> > Guindon - Manager, Web Development | Eclipse
> >> Foundation and
> >> > a few others (not only MicroProfilers)~20
> >> individuals in the
> >> > ticket contributing, we revived a +4 years old
> >> github bug
> >> > that affects positively all the
> Contributors under
> >> the EF:
> >> > Bug 483563 - Allow assignment of Github
> issues to
> >> > contributors
> >> >
> >> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=483563
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=483563__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6iDUVfRs$>>
> >> > Since the middle of December last year, active
> >> contributors
> >> > in any Eclipse project can be added to any
> Repo. It just
> >> > need to be executed by the Project itself.
> >> >
> >> > I owe (got sidetracked with the heavy duty
> work
> >> > collaborating on the creation of the MP
> working
> >> group + MP
> >> > is prohibit from releasing MP 4.0 so the
> blog took a
> >> step
> >> > back as we have no use for it YET] Chris
> and the EF web
> >> > team the publishing of that blog still,
> title: [MP
> >> > Blog]Adding Contributors to the MP
> Repository #230
> >> >
> >>
> <https://github.com/eclipse/microprofile-marketing/issues/230
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse/microprofile-marketing/issues/230__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6CRBZJoE$>>
> >> >
> >> > How about we use the draft of the blog to
> pilot with the
> >> > Jakarta EE TCK adding me as a contributor
> to the Repo
> >> > itself. The steps are simple enough but THIS
> >> awesome new
> >> > contributors feature have yet to be tested. I
> >> welcomed you
> >> > to do some research using the bug tracing
> -- a few other
> >> > tickets were opened/closed to fix the
> issue and still
> >> > protect the projects. :)
> >> >
> >> > I appreciate you, your follow up shows
> much care
> >> Scott, you
> >> > are awesome! -- lets try stuff, fail fast,
> >> learn/unlearn and
> >> > re-try, openly!
> >> > Amelia Eiras
> >> > twitter.com/ameliaeiras <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras>
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>
> >> <https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6mHHn0Sk$>>
> >> > Tribe:http://tomitribe.com
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6_-6QdOU$>
> >> <http://tomitribe.com/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6hGFpImo$>>
> >> > https://tribestream.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ETT_eRA$>
> >> <https://tribestream.io/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6BtXoImg$>>
> >> > OSS:http://microprofile.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://microprofile.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6i05yjyU$>
> >> https://jakarta.ee
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6j8aVRkA$>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:38 PM Scott Marlow
> >> > <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 8/5/20 3:21 PM, Amelia Eiras wrote:
> >> > > Scott,
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you for sending the links.
> >> > > I will start the follow-up via the
> Wikis
> >> later today.
> >> > Thank YOU! :)
> >> >
> >> > Amelia,
> >> >
> >> > I found
> >> >
> >>
> https://docs.github.com/en/github/building-a-strong-community/adding-or-editing-wiki-pages#adding-or-editing-wiki-pages-locally
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.github.com/en/github/building-a-strong-community/adding-or-editing-wiki-pages*adding-or-editing-wiki-pages-locally__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6jDOZ4ds$>
> >> >
> >> > today and am sharing the link here in
> case it helps
> >> > you/others.
> >> >
> >> > Following the article instructions I
> could clone
> >> > git@xxxxxxxxxx:eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck.wiki.git but
> >> > didn't seem able
> >> > to clone
> >> > https://github.com/scottmarlow/jakartaee-tck.wiki.git
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/scottmarlow/jakartaee-tck.wiki.git__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6Elw0ITs$>
> >> > which was
> >> > disappointing.
> >> >
> >> > I haven't yet found out if the wiki
> web interface
> >> > perhaps allows
> >> > non-committers to create pull requests
> on the fly
> >> > perhaps somehow.
> >> >
> >> > Scott
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Amelia Eiras
> >> > > twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras>
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>
> >> > <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>>
> >> > <https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6mHHn0Sk$>>
> >> > > Tribe:http://tomitribe.com
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6_-6QdOU$>
> >> <http://tomitribe.com/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6hGFpImo$>>
> >> > > https://tribestream.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ETT_eRA$>
> >> <https://tribestream.io/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6BtXoImg$>>
> >> > > OSS:http://microprofile.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://microprofile.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6i05yjyU$>
> >> https://jakarta.ee
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6j8aVRkA$>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 6:50 AM
> Scott Marlow
> >> > <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hola Amelia,
> >> > >
> >> > > I removed the platform ml from this
> >> response as
> >> > Kevin Sutter already
> >> > > included enough information in
> his response.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:27 PM
> Amelia Eiras
> >> > <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > > <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hola Scott,
> >> > >
> >> > > I am happy to help the wiki
> write-up
> >> after it
> >> > is started :)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I started some draft updates to
> create a few
> >> > levels of landing pages
> >> > > via
> >> > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/wiki
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/wiki__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6xk6vhuo$>.
> >>
> >> > Please do
> >> > > let me know if you are able to
> create a pull
> >> > request for the wiki.
> >> > > I tried googling for how
> non-committers
> >> could do
> >> > that but didn't
> >> > > find a reasonable solution.
> >> > >
> >> > > I added a question to the Q+A
> sub-page
> >> about how
> >> > to add questions
> >> > > and answered that questions can
> be added by
> >> > sending mail to the
> >> > > Platform TCK mailing list.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/wiki/Jakarta-EE-9-Platform-TCK-Questions---Answers
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/wiki/Jakarta-EE-9-Platform-TCK-Questions---Answers__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6_ZPUFQQ$>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Sadly, I always have a
> conflict at
> >> 8am PDT on
> >> > Tuesdays so I
> >> > > cannot join the Platform calls,
> >> however like
> >> > you said, there is
> >> > > no need to wait to start
> lowering the
> >> bar to
> >> > entry.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > +1
> >> > >
> >> > > I am most happy to work
> with you and
> >> other
> >> > Jakartees on the
> >> > > documentation.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you!
> >> > >
> >> > > Lets not wait to have
> everything figured
> >> > out. If we start the
> >> > > write up, it is most likely
> that
> >> #ossDOERs by
> >> > jumping into help
> >> > > with TCK, could help
> improve the process
> >> > itself, I see them
> >> > > submitting PRs against the
> >> documenation that
> >> > in turn helps to
> >> > > clarify the reality of HOW TCK
> >> Contributing
> >> > Works. Mojo is:
> >> > > try, fail-fast & openly,
> learn, unlearn &
> >> > reiterate.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > +1
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Please pull me in when
> starting that
> >> > write-up. See you in git,
> >> > > my ID: aeiras.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I included "@aeiras" in the
> comment for a
> >> wiki
> >> > page update, I'm not
> >> > > sure if that is ignored or
> processed by
> >> github.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Abrazos,
> >> > >
> >> > > Amelia Eiras
> >> > > twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras>
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>
> >> > <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>>
> >> > <https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6mHHn0Sk$>>
> >> > > Tribe:http://tomitribe.com
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6_-6QdOU$>
> >> > <http://tomitribe.com/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6hGFpImo$>>
> >> > > https://tribestream.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ETT_eRA$>
> >> <https://tribestream.io/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6BtXoImg$>>
> >> > > OSS:http://microprofile.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://microprofile.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6i05yjyU$>
> >> https://jakarta.ee
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6j8aVRkA$>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:23
> AM Scott
> >> Marlow
> >> > <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Amelia,
> >> > >
> >> > > Adding platform-dev ml...
> >> > >
> >> > > The Platform call wasn't
> >> scheduled for
> >> > today, so perhaps
> >> > > next week there
> >> > > can be discussion about the
> >> below. I did
> >> > think more about
> >> > > this and
> >> > > would like to propose a few
> >> adjustments
> >> > to give the
> >> > > community enough
> >> > > time to give feedback
> but also
> >> meet our
> >> > schedule constraints.
> >> > >
> >> > > With regard to
> Standalone TCK
> >> > deliverables, we can easily
> >> > > stage new
> >> > > builds of each
> Standalone TCKs,
> >> however
> >> > we can only promote
> >> > > a specific
> >> > > versioned Standalone
> TCK once
> >> (with the
> >> > last promoted TCK
> >> > > version
> >> > > targeted for EE 9 final
> release).
> >> > >
> >> > > So from a TCK
> perspective, I
> >> propose that
> >> > contributors
> >> > > review TCK
> >> > > documentation and
> create pull
> >> requests
> >> > over the next N days,
> >> > > where N is
> >> > > to be discussed further
> (perhaps
> >> N could
> >> > be 10 calendar days
> >> > > including
> >> > > some non-working days
> or some other
> >> > duration yet to be
> >> > > discussed).
> >> > >
> >> > > Whatever N is for the
> final date to
> >> > create TCK documentation
> >> > > pull
> >> > > requests by, each SPEC
> API ballot
> >> could
> >> > work off of an
> >> > > initial promoted
> >> > > TCK (e.g. assuming no
> TCK test
> >> failures
> >> > and initial TCK doc
> >> > > changes are
> >> > > merged).
> >> > >
> >> > > If subsequent TCK
> documentation pull
> >> > requests come in after
> >> > > the SPEC API
> >> > > ballot, the SPEC lead
> (or TCK
> >> team) could
> >> > push a new staged
> >> > > Standalone
> >> > > TCK update that could
> then be
> >> promoted
> >> > with the updated TCK
> >> > > documentation.
> >> > >
> >> > > The only negative is
> that each
> >> Standalone
> >> > TCK that is
> >> > > promoted after the
> >> > > respective SPEC API
> ballot is
> >> approved,
> >> > would need to be
> >> > > copied to
> >> > > http://download.eclipse.org/jakartaee
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://download.eclipse.org/jakartaee__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6Vk_vR-w$>
> >> (along with SHA
> >> > sum).
> >> > >
> >> > > I suggest that we start
> following
> >> ^ this
> >> > week if no there
> >> > > are no reasons
> >> > > presented as to why we
> cannot
> >> abide by
> >> > the current schedule
> >> > > for SPEC API
> >> > > ballots and also still
> merge in
> >> further
> >> > TCK documentation
> >> > > changes from
> >> > > the community (while we
> have time
> >> left
> >> > for doing that after
> >> > > SPEC API
> >> > > ballots complete but
> before EE 9
> >> is final).
> >> > >
> >> > > More responses inline
> below.
> >> > >
> >> > > On 8/3/20 6:24 PM,
> Amelia Eiras
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > Scott,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I think your
> explanation is quite
> >> > beneficial for
> >> > > tomorrow's platform
> >> > > > call, beyond that
> call and its
> >> minutes.
> >> > > > Releases have a
> deadline, that
> >> means
> >> > that expectations
> >> > > need to be fluid
> >> > > > yet clearly stated
> to simplify the
> >> > process of the
> >> > > release. I see you as
> >> > > > a Mentor for this
> thread. :)
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you, I think that
> we all
> >> desire to
> >> > bring more
> >> > > community to the
> >> > > Jakarta EE Platform
> TCK. IMO, we did
> >> > very well with getting
> >> > > community
> >> > > contributions for the
> big bang
> >> "EE 8 ==>
> >> > EE 9" changes but
> >> > > not as much
> >> > > for other TCK changes,
> which
> >> could be a
> >> > number of reasons
> >> > > (including
> >> > > documentation/wiki need to
> >> provide more
> >> > 'how thinks work'
> >> > > guidance to
> >> > > developers.)
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > After I read your
> reply on the
> >> why of
> >> > time, I finally
> >> > > understood the
> >> > > > workaround
> time-limits, the
> >> steps 1,
> >> > 2... when dealing
> >> > > with the TCK.
> >> > > > I would go further
> and ask for
> >> us to
> >> > start the wiki under
> >> > > the TCK
> >> > > > documenting this.
> >> > >
> >> > > +1 I have been thinking
> that we
> >> should
> >> > update the initial
> >> > > wiki page to
> >> > > be a proper landing
> page that
> >> links to
> >> > sub-topics, so we can
> >> > > have EE 9
> >> > > development process
> topics as well as
> >> > user oriented topics
> >> > > (really,
> >> > > should have no friction
> against
> >> adding
> >> > any type of
> >> > > sub-topics with no
> >> > > limit on amount of
> nesting).
> >> > >
> >> > > > With Jakarta EE, the
> TCK is
> >> public yet
> >> > its process is
> >> > > > a
> complete vacuum with bare to
> >> none
> >> > documentation on what
> >> > > to expect when
> >> > > > contributing to it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes, it is a lot different
> >> developing the
> >> > TCK than just
> >> > > using it, many
> >> > > of the contributors may
> not be
> >> users of
> >> > the TCKs yet, for those
> >> > > contributors it is even
> harder to
> >> > understand the TCK internals.
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Up until now, we
> have never
> >> discussed
> >> > the bare minimum
> >> > > expectations when
> >> > > > TCK contributed. We
> ought to
> >> fix that.
> >> > >
> >> > > +1
> >> > >
> >> > > > Related to Jakarta EE
> >> contributing--
> >> > last week, I was
> >> > > candidly asked via
> >> > > > a Java public forum on a
> >> private slack
> >> > group how much
> >> > > time was ok to
> >> > > > "wait" for a PR
> review/merge
> >> or git
> >> > issue accomplishment
> >> > > under the
> >> > > > Jakarta EE project
> *before
> >> asking for
> >> > help*. I said 72hrs
> >> > > or so,
> >> > > > patience and respect to
> >> Contributors
> >> > of the project means
> >> > > we understand
> >> > > > that their time,
> YOUR, MINE,
> >> OURS, is
> >> > the most precious
> >> > > commodity & a
> >> > > > contract if choosing
> to be a
> >> #ossDOER
> >> > that wants to have
> >> > > impactful
> >> > > > contributions.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Lastly, I believe candid
> >> conversations
> >> > lead such as the
> >> > > one you are
> >> > > > beautifully
> facilitating lead to
> >> > documentation.
> >> > > Brainstorming and
> >> > > > exchanges such as
> these ought
> >> to make
> >> > you and I scalable.
> >> > >
> >> > > +100 and thanks for
> taking the
> >> time to
> >> > contribute here!
> >> > >
> >> > > I see good
> >> > > > ideas, values from
> those that
> >> care to
> >> > share *a
> >> > > >
> direct acknowledgement to
> >> scale stuff
> >> > that is worth
> >> > > broadening. * THAT I
> >> > > > CARE THE MOST.
> >> > >
> >> > > +100
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hugs,
> >> > >
> >> > > Ditto and have a great
> day! :-)
> >> > >
> >> > > Scott
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Amelia Eiras
> >> > > >
> twitter.com/ameliaeiras <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras>
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>
> >> > <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>>
> >> > <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>>
> >> > >
> <https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6mHHn0Sk$>>
> >> > > >
> Tribe:http://tomitribe.com
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6_-6QdOU$>
> >> > <http://tomitribe.com/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6hGFpImo$>>
> >> > > > https://tribestream.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ETT_eRA$>
> >> > <https://tribestream.io/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6BtXoImg$>>
> >> > > >
> OSS:http://microprofile.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://microprofile.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6i05yjyU$>
> >> > https://jakarta.ee
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6j8aVRkA$>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020
> at 12:03
> >> PM Scott
> >> > Marlow
> >> > > <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> >> > > >
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>>>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, Aug 3,
> 2020 at
> >> 12:59 PM
> >> > Amelia Eiras
> >> > > <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> >> > > >
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > >
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hola Scott,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hola Amelia,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks for
> responding!
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have bias
> feedback
> >> on how
> >> > the window to
> >> > > receive feedback ought
> >> > > > to be set up.
> >> > > > Bare with me and
> >> thanks for
> >> > brainstorming after
> >> > > you consume this
> >> > > > message.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If an
> issue/PR is sent on
> >> > Friday, do we expect
> >> > > the contributors
> >> > > > to work on
> it over the
> >> weekend?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I agree that we
> do not
> >> want them
> >> > to work on it over
> >> > > the weekend.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If yes, why
> is that?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Should we
> assume that
> >> > contributions ought to
> >> > > happen during the
> >> > > > work week
> instead?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > +1
> >> > > >
> >> > > > WHY?
> >> > > > the 72 hours
> period for
> >> > example ought not to
> >> > > contain the wknd.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Whether it is 78
> hours or some
> >> > other amount of time,
> >> > > we still may
> >> > > > have additional
> standalone TCK
> >> > documentation pull
> >> > > requests that come
> >> > > > in after we have
> >> "promotion" (e.g.
> >> > copied to
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/promoted/jakarta-annotations-tck-2.0.0.zip
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/promoted/jakarta-annotations-tck-2.0.0.zip__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ZX5SSF4$>)
> >> > > > of the respective
> >> versioned TCK.
> >> > For example, if
> >> > > �� >
> >> > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/382
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/382__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L68bzHFr4$>
> >> > > is promoted
> >> > > > on Wednesday
> instead of
> >> Tuesday, a
> >> > contributor could
> >> > > notice on
> >> > > > Thursday that an
> important TCK
> >> > documentation should
> >> > > be made, that we
> >> > > > could increment
> the version
> >> > >
> to jakarta-annotations-tck-2.0.1.zip and
> >> > > > stage/promote that.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Fyi, the "stage"
> term
> >> refers to
> >> > copying the latest
> >> > > nightly TCK build
> >> > > > to
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/staged-900
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/staged-900__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6c9xeJSI$>
> >> > > > and "promotion"
> refers to
> >> creating
> >> > a versioned TCK.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm not aware of any
> >> problems with
> >> > promoting multiple
> >> > > versions of a
> >> > > > TCK, however
> there could
> >> be time
> >> > constraints that
> >> > > dictate whether to
> >> > > > promote a
> specific TCK again.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We as a
> community can
> >> > contribute any day we
> >> > > choose to, HOWEVER
> >> > > > we ought to
> be aware AND
> >> > PROTECTIVE that weekends
> >> > > for many of us
> >> > > > are free of
> professional
> >> > work-devices.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Another approach
> could be
> >> to start
> >> > the time clock now
> >> > > by emailing
> >> > > > all of the
> various SPEC API
> >> > contributors that their
> >> > > feedback on the
> >> > > > TCK documentation
> >> contained in the
> >> > respective TCK zip in
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/staged-900
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/staged-900__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6c9xeJSI$>
> >> > > > is welcome in
> the form of pull
> >> > requests on
> >> > > >
> >> > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6nS-653w$>.
> >> The
> >> > > advantage of
> >> > > > this approach is
> that
> >> contributors
> >> > would have more
> >> > > time to contribute.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Another advantage of
> >> emailing all
> >> > SPEC API
> >> > > contributors now is that
> >> > > > we don't yet
> have issues
> >> for all
> >> > of the SPEC API TCKs
> >> > > created yet,
> >> > > > so sending a
> generic email
> >> to all
> >> > could help get the
> >> > > message out
> >> > > > sooner so the TCK
> >> documentation
> >> > pull requests can
> >> > > come in sooner.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > As such, I
> would recommend
> >> > that the August 4th
> >> > > gets moved to
> >> > > > later to
> honor that
> >> weekend
> >> > ought not to be
> >> > > included (yet are
> >> > > > awesome plus
> to have)
> >> on the
> >> > window to contribute.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also of
> importance is to
> >> keep the
> >> > SPEC API ballots
> >> > > moving along and
> >> > > > not getting
> blocked on the
> >> > promotion of TCKs, as well
> >> > > as not getting
> >> > > > blocked on the
> TCK team
> >> creating
> >> > the tracking issues
> >> > > for promoting TCKs.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So, if we delay
> the August
> >> 4th TCK
> >> > promotions until
> >> > > August 6th and
> >> > > > send generic
> email today
> >> to all of
> >> > the SPEC API
> >> > > mailing lists to
> >> > > > review their
> respective
> >> staged TCK
> >> > zips (and create
> >> > > pull requests on
> >> > > >
> >> > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6nS-653w$>
> >> for further
> >> > > changes
> >> > > > that are
> needed), that
> >> might be
> >> > more helpful.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The following
> schedule
> >> (from Ed's
> >> > original email from
> >> > > this thread)
> >> > > > is what we are
> trying to
> >> achieve
> >> > with regard to
> >> > > promoting the TCKs:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Wave 0 (Any
> time)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Concurrency
> >> > > > * Messaging
> >> > > > * Persistence
> >> > > > * (From the
> Platform TCK)
> >> > > > o Web
> Services Metadata
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Wave 1 (Any
> time)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Annotations
> >> > > > * _expression_
> Language
> >> > > > * JSON Processing
> >> > > > * Servlet
> >> > > > * SOAP with
> Attachments
> >> > > > * WebSocket
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Wave 2
> (Planned to
> >> start July 28)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Authentication
> >> > > > * Authorization
> >> > > > * JSON Binding
> >> > > > * Server Pages
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Wave 3
> (Planned to
> >> start Aug 5)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * XML Web Services
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Wave 4
> (Planned to
> >> start Aug 11)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * RESTful Web
> Services
> >> > > > * Transaction
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Wave 5
> (Planned to
> >> start Aug 18)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Connectors
> >> > > > * Standard Tag
> Library
> >> > > > * (From the
> Platform TCK)
> >> > > > o
> Enterprise Beans
> >> > > > o
> Enterprise Web
> >> Services
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Wave 6
> (Planned to
> >> start Aug 25
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Security
> >> > > > * Server Faces
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Wave 7
> (Planned to
> >> start Aug 31)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Jakarta EE
> Web Profile
> >> > > > * Jakarta EE
> Platform
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Stay awesome
> formidable
> >> > #ossDOER and happy August
> >> > > to everyone here,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks, you too! :-)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Scott
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Amelia Eiras
> >> > > >
> twitter.com/ameliaeiras <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras>
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>
> >> > <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>>
> >> > <http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6h_jDysw$>>
> >> > >
> <https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6mHHn0Sk$>>
> >> > > >
> >> Tribe:http://tomitribe.com
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6_-6QdOU$>
> >> > <http://tomitribe.com/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tomitribe.com/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6hGFpImo$>>
> >> > > > https://tribestream.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6ETT_eRA$>
> >> > <https://tribestream.io/
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tribestream.io/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6BtXoImg$>>
> >> > > >
> >> OSS:http://microprofile.io
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://microprofile.io__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6i05yjyU$>
> >> > https://jakarta.ee
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6j8aVRkA$>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, Aug
> 3, 2020 at
> >> 7:35 AM
> >> > Scott Marlow
> >> > > <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>
> >> > > >
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > >
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Thu,
> Jul 30,
> >> 2020 at
> >> > 9:57 PM Scott Marlow
> >> > > >
> >> <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > >
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > >
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The committer teams
> >> > need to review the
> >> > > staged TCK
> >> > > > content and give their
> >> > > > +1 for the relevant
> >> > TCK bundle to be
> >> > > promoted. The
> >> > > > promotion will
> >> > > > freeze the TCK for
> >> > release, which
> >> > > essentially means it
> >> > > > is frozen. If a
> >> > > > blocking change in a
> >> > TCK is needed, we
> >> > > will re-release
> >> > > > with a
> >> > > > incremented version
> >> > number as mentioned
> >> > > below.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The possible states
> >> > that TCKs can
> >> > > transition through are:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Staged via
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/staged-900
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/staged-900__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6c9xeJSI$>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > (each TCK zip may be
> >> > updated multiple times).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Promoted via
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/promoted
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://download.eclipse.org/ee4j/jakartaee-tck/jakartaee9-eftl/promoted__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6WhDc9Jk$>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > (each versioned TCK
> >> > zip is frozen
> >> > > immediately, further
> >> > > > changes can only
> >> > > > appear via a version
> >> > number increment).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > * Final release for
> >> > Jakarta EE 9 via
> >> > > �� >
> >> https://download.eclipse.org/jakartaee/.
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://download.eclipse.org/jakartaee/.__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6xkjm0pg$>..
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 7/27/20 11:21 AM,
> >> > Ed Bratt wrote:
> >> > > > > Due to how the
> >> > Specification Committee
> >> > > has defined
> >> > > > the process, any
> >> > > > > change to the TCK
> >> > requires are
> >> > > re-release -- Docs.
> >> > > > change, Exclude List
> >> > > > > change, anything
> >> > else that would
> >> > > change content
> >> > > > and/or generate a build
> >> > > > > forces a version
> >> > number increment.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I think the
> >> > procedures described below
> >> > > will allow us
> >> > > > to stop builds,
> >> > > > > once a
> >> > Specification has gone to
> >> > > ballot. So, that's
> >> > > > my first concern. We
> >> > > > > just need to follow
> >> > the ballot
> >> > > progress closely and
> >> > > > not inadvertently
> >> > > > > create an update
> >> > that wasn't asked for.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > From a process point
> >> > of view, I think
> >> > > that the SPEC API
> >> > > >
> >> > representative/lead/committers can help
> >> > > determine when
> >> > > > it is time for
> >> > > > the relevant TCK to
> >> > transition from
> >> > > Staged to Promoted
> >> > > > state.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Question, if we don't
> >> > hear feedback from
> >> > > a SPEC lead or
> >> > > > committers, who
> >> > > > can make the decision
> >> > to proceed with
> >> > > Promoting the
> >> > > > TCK? Also how long
> >> > > > should we wait for
> >> > feedback?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > There is no
> >> perfect amount
> >> > of time to wait
> >> > > for feedback, if
> >> > > > we make
> it too
> >> short, we
> >> > may need to
> >> > > stage/promote a newer
> >> > > > standalone TCK
> version for
> >> > further changes.
> >> > > If we make it
> >> > > > too
> long, we may never
> >> > hear feedback and could
> >> > > > jeopardize the EE 9
> schedule.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm
> thinking that
> >> we can
> >> > wait a few days
> >> > > after pinging the
> >> > > > SPEC API
> teams
> >> (whether it
> >> > is sending email
> >> > > or pinging
> >> > > > lead(s)).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > For
> example, for
> >> > > >
> >> > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/382
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/382__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L68bzHFr4$>
> >> we
> >> > > > sent
> email to
> >> > ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > >
> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> > >
> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >> > <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ca-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>>
> >> > > > on
> Friday July 31
> >> and will
> >> > > >
> >> > promote jakarta-annotations-tck-2.0.0.zip
> >> > > first thing on
> >> > > > Tuesday August 4,
> 2020 if
> >> > we do not hear
> >> > > feedback.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Worse
> case, we
> >> could later
> >> > stage
> >> > > >
> >> > a jakarta-annotations-tck-2.0.1.zip if
> >> > > further TCK pull
> >> > > > requests for
> documentation
> >> > changes are important.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Scott
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Good news, it is now
> >> > time for Staged
> >> > > >
> >> > jakarta-annotations-tck-2.0.0.zip
> >> > > > to be reviewed via
> >> > > >
> >> > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/382
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/382__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L68bzHFr4$>.
> >> > > > Feedback is
> >> > > > welcome (link to
> >> > staged TCK zip is in the
> >> > > issue)!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also good news, it is
> >> > now time for Staged
> >> > > >
> >> > jakarta-_expression_-language-tck-4.0.0.zip
> >> > > to be reviewed
> >> > > > via
> >> > > >
> >> > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/387
> >>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues/387__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Is1zgaU1Y7Jb4mzM4vFZdCyjdM5O8s56UzmgXG5hB6P3lAumBL9Dr8L6BDlpzhc$>.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Once the relevant SPEC
> >> > API lead and/or
> >> > > committers has
> >> > > > given their
> >> > > > approval via the
> >> > relevant jakartaee-tck
> >> > > issue, we will
> >> > > > Promote the
> >> > > > related TCK.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We have created some
> >> > other similar
> >> > > "Review and promote "
> >> > > > tracking issues
> >> > > > for other TCKs but
> >> > help is needed to
> >> > > created tracking
> >> > > > issues for other
> >> > > > TCKs still (open
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+Review+and+promote
> >>
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> >> > > >
> >> > > > for current issues).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Scott
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
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