I also tried to Mention that on the platform Agenda, mainly if it was possible to break the Web Profile into „pillars“ like Servlet-based, REST-based or similar. That would allow to introduce MVC on the REST side but keep the Servlet-based specs like Servlet, JSP, Faces etc. optional in a future Jakarta EE profile, making it easier for implementors who wish to support more lightweight Solutions like „Self Contained Systems“.
Werner
I very much agree with this concern. It is very tough to make a case that server-side Java frameworks are mainstream enough to be included in a Jakarta EE profile at all. Indeed, I think it is time to prune things like JSF and JSP from the profiles too. Should things ever change back in favor of Java server-side web frameworks, they could be added to Jakarta EE profiles then.
And I say this while being a long time fan of Java server-side web frameworks. I continue to believe MVC fills a critical void in the Java ecosystem as a stand-alone, pluggable technology.
Reza Rahman
Jakarta EE Ambassador, Author, Blogger, Speaker
Please note views expressed here are my own as an individual community member and do not reflect the views of my employer.
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Paul Nicolucci <pnicolucci@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I know there have been some previous discussions around adding the MVC specification to the Jakarta EE Web Profile.
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> I wanted to start this discussion again and voice my concerns about adding it.
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> My main concern with adding MVC to the Web Profile or any Profile is I don't have a good handle on the adoption of this in the EE community. In my opinion, it would be best to leave it as a stand-alone specification and revisit adding it to a Profile in a future release depending on the adoption rate and demand from the Jakarta EE community.
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> Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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> Regards,
>
> Paul Nicolucci
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