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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Jakarta EE 9, Web Profile and XML Web Services



On 9/1/20 10:27 AM, Kevin Sutter wrote:
Steve,
Interesting twist of our Jakarta EE 9 plan...

First off, the Jakarta EE 9 Web Profile specification is not final and it looks like it needs updating.  That statement about Java 11 support is too strong (based on our current release plan).  I'm sure there's something similar for the Platform spec.  I'll get PRs in place to correct these.

I see a few alternatives..

  * Pull XML Web Services into Web Profile.  I'm not a fan of this
    approach.  XML Web Services is marked as Optional for Jakarta EE 9,
    so it's kind of strange to pull it into Web Profile just to satisfy
    the TCK requirements.

I think that https://jakarta.ee/specifications/platform/9/platform-spec-9-SNAPSHOT.html#a2161 shows that XML Web Services is optional for both Full Platform + Web Profile (also mentioned this after this thread started on https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/23184#issuecomment-684869192).

The Platform TCK does contain optional tests that use jakarta.xml.ws.WebServiceRef. https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/blob/master/src/com/sun/ts/lib/harness/keyword.properties#L240 is an example of keywords that opt into some of these tests:

webservices javaee jaxws_web_profile javaee_web_profile_optional

Also, as mentioned on https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/23184#issuecomment-684869192, I'm not sure why the GlassFish 6.0 Web Profile doesn't support jakarta.xml.ws.WebServiceRef but I agree that the CDI TCK could make the jakarta.xml.ws.WebServiceRef tests optional or excluded, since they are not required.

  * Change this TCK reference back to javax (vs jakarta).  Since our
    first requirement for Jakarta EE 9 is Java SE 8, this would get us
    up and running and be consistent with our release plan.  Supporting
    Java 11 down the road (9.1?) would resurface this problem.

IMO, I would rather exclude or make the relevant tests optional.

  * Modify the TCK to not rely on this XML Web Service reference.  Not
    sure on the impact of this request.

IMO, this sounds like either excluding the CDI tests that reference XML Web Service or making the relevant tests optional some other way (if that is possible).

IMO, making the XML Web Service tests optional would align better with https://jakarta.ee/specifications/platform/9/platform-spec-9-SNAPSHOT.html#a2161.


Any other ideas?

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From: "Steve Millidge (Payara)" <steve.millidge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/01/2020 08:30
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [jakartaee-platform-dev] Jakarta EE 9,        Web Profile and XML Web Services
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Hi,

We are hitting an issue with GlassFish on the Web Profile TCK and in particular with CDItckporting see _https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/23184_for background.

My summary is we are hitting ClassNotFoundException in GlassFish Web Profile for Jakarta.xml.ws.WebServiceRef as Web Services are not part of the Jakarta EE 9 Web Profile.

However javax.xml.ws.WebServiceRef is present in the JDK hence this wasn’t a problem in Jakarta EE 8 on the Web Profile

The  Jakarta EE 9 Web Profile specification _https://jakarta.ee/specifications/webprofile/9/webprofile-spec-9-SNAPSHOT.html#determining-applicable-requirements_states

“For a similar reason, all Web Profile 9 APIs must support the Java™ Platform, Standard Edition 8 API, and all Web Profile 9 products must run on Java™ Platform, Standard Edition 11 runtime.”

So what should we as the GlassFish project do in this circumstance wrt to support for XML Web Services?

I haven’t checked to see whether it is possible to isolate the reference to the Jakarta.xml.ws classes in the GlassFIsh codebase specifically for Web Profile yet however I thought it best to raise this to the Platform project.

Apologies if my summary is not clear as it is not all clear in my head ?

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