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Re: [jakartabatch-dev] Home for jbatch-arquillian-extension ? TCK Runner repos?
My initial thought was to provide an example runner for GlassFish inside the Batch TCK repo, just as an example others could use as a template if they want to run the TCK using Arquillian.

The long-term vision I have is to extract this into a separate Eclipse project that abstracts Arquillian under an API that is more descriptive and closer to the developer, hiding all the complexity of ShrinkWrap and assembling the deployment from classpath elements or maven dependencies. It also makes sense to move Arquillian Core under Eclipse Foundation so that the community can more easily contribute to it and evolve it. Either that and we would contribute the runner to the Arquillian project, or create a new Jakarta Testing project for that. I believe that the Jakarta EE community deserves something better than plain Arquillian, something that is useful for Jakarta TCKs but also for testing Jakarta EE applications out in the wild. Testing is a weak point of Jakarta EE, even with Arquillian, we all know it but nobody really addresses it.

Ondro



st 15. 9. 2021 o 14:49 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@xxxxxxxxx> napísal(a):
Guess arquillian is dead since some years (understand 100% dedicated to EE TCK as it was originally intended to after some wide comm noise) so keeping it under the jakarta umbrella can make sense.
If too much paperwork to move it to another repo I would keep it in batch repo, else a new repo does not shock me.

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Le mer. 15 sept. 2021 à 14:44, Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
Interesting suggestion, Arjan.  Do you think moving it over to Eclipse will create more buzz and more contributors?  Or, were you thinking of forking it over to Eclipse?  In either case, you might consider running the idea by Scott Stark since I see that he was one of the more recent committers and he's very active with Jakarta EE.  Scott Marlow might have some thoughts on this as well.  

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From:        "arjan tijms" <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx>
To:        "jakartabatch developer discussions" <jakartabatch-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        09/15/2021 05:39
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartabatch-dev] Home for jbatch-arquillian-extension ? TCK Runner repos?
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Hi,

Maybe one step further, what about seeing if we can move Arquillian-core itself over to Eclipse and maintain it as the official TCK connector?

Arquillian core at its current location hasn't seen that much activity: https://github.com/arquillian/arquillian-core/graphs/contributors

WDYT?

Kind regards,
Arjan

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:30 PM Scott Kurz <skurz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Following Ondro's lead,   I can appreciate separating out the Arquillian extension and the "TCK runner" modules from the core TCK .. but.. where then to put them?

I can imagine the TCK doc will probably want to reference a runner as an example.  

I suppose we could ask to start a new ee4j GitHub repo, not sure it's worth it.    I'm not completely convinced we shouldn't just roll this into the batch-tck repo in fact as another couple of modules (with the down side of polluting the commit history with updates unrelated to the core).

If no one is too especially interested, I could see myself probably building on Ondro's example and cleaning this up a bit and adding a runner project the:  https://github.com/WASdev/standards.jsr352.jbatch repo.
(It'd probably be geared mostly towards Open Liberty and Glassfish, at least to start.)

Ondro, did you have any plans here?  

Thanks,
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