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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [Open Feedback] to this Community via Twitter

When signing the ECA https://www.eclipse.org/legal/ECA.php you assert that you have the right to license the contribution via your Developer Certificate of Origin so the ECA has the sort of text you want. However if there is a danger that your employer actually owns your contribution then you will need employer consent. This is normal in all open source. license@xxxxxxxxxxx is where IP questions should go.

 

IANAL and don’t know what is in the employment agreement you are going to sign so I don’t know what you own and what they own.

 

I assume a committer member would be enough in your case but I’m not as familiar with that.

 

From: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Theodor Augustin Dumitrescu
Sent: 29 January 2020 14:50
To: Jakarta EE community discussions <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [Open Feedback] to this Community via Twitter

 

Hi Folks,

 

I'm new therefore I can't say too much about the hole process.

 

However, I would like to stress that I too am having problems because of this situation. At the moment I am interviewing to move into a new company and my contribution derives from my interest in Jakarta.

Honestly it seems absurd to me that I have to say to a future employer during an interview "I am contributing to Jakarta EE and therefore I need you to start paying so that I can continue to do it".

 

Wouldn't it be possible to add within the ECA an entry such as "I confirm that my contribution is in no way influenced by my situation worked or by my employer"?

 

From Steve's message I understand that I could contribute if for example I use my computer and my internet connection to avoid the IP problem (for example using the mobile phone's hotspot).

 

 

Il giorno mer 29 gen 2020 alle ore 15:26 reza_rahman <reza_rahman@xxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:

I would be interested to know which projects you had issued feature requests to. With the focus on completing the transfer and accomplishing the rebranding, lack of action on new features is understandable.

 

However, this should be changing soon as the Jakarta EE 9 work commences, especially if you are able to commit to making feature enhancements yourself. At least beginning to engage the projects is certainly a commendable start and I would like to try to support you once I had a bit more context.

 

Reza Rahman

Jakarta EE Ambassador, Author, Blogger, Speaker

 

Please note views expressed here are my own as an individual community member and do not reflect the views of my employer.

 

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

 

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From: "Mihai A." <amihaiemil@xxxxxxxxx>

Date: 1/29/20 5:13 AM (GMT-08:00)

To: Jakarta EE community discussions <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [Open Feedback] to this Community via Twitter

 

Now I understand why the tickets I open to various related projects get no answer and nobody seems really interested in them,

Talking about feature requests, not necessarily bugs. 

 

Cool story.

 

Br,

Mihai

 

On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 15:10, Mark Struberg <struberg@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Talked with him.
Romain now works for a company which has signed up on a low level Eclipse membership since ages.
But their 'tier' doesn't qualify for having someone work on an EG or working group it seems.
So EF seemingly asked his company management to 'upgrade' their account and pay FU****NG 10k just for Romain to be able to continue to contribute. And then they suspended all his Eclipse committership alltogether.

Hell, this is SOOO WRONG on soo many levels. We should be freaking happy to have people like Romain continue to contribute to and support Jakarta EE. But instead his company gets ripped off?
I mean, this is really odd. This is pure pay to play and a shame for calling itself Open Source!

Dear Eclipse leadership. JakartaEE needs people like Romain. JakartaEE needs other OSS foundations, JakartaEE actually needs the all the community you can get!

JakartaEE is not a standard Eclipse project - don't wreck it!

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 28.01.2020 um 22:25 schrieb Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> What actually was the trigger for Romain's statement?
> -Markus
>
>
> Von: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Kevin Sutter
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Januar 2020 21:04
> An: Jakarta EE community discussions
> Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [Open Feedback] to this Community via Twitter
>
> Romain is entitled to his opinion, but I don't agree with it.
>
> I belong to and have participated in both foundations -- Eclipse and Apache.  Yes, they are different.  They both have quirks.  But, I do not agree with posting something like this and asking for a discussion.  At least not on the Jakarta EE Community forum.  We should focus on Jakarta EE issues and questions, and not opinions about the Eclipse Foundation.  My two cents worth...
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Kevin Sutter
> STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
> e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
> phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)   
> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
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>
>
> From:        Amelia Eiras <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:        Jakarta EE Community <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:        01/28/2020 13:31
> Subject:        [EXTERNAL] [jakarta.ee-community] [Open Feedback] to this Community via Twitter
> Sent by:        jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> Hello from Las Vegas Jakartees,
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> with reference to this Tweet
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> If Romain's statements are true,  why are they true?
>
> Amelia Eiras
> twitter.com/ameliaeiras
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