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* Paula Austel - IBM
Jeff Broberg CA
*Duane
Buss - Novell
Anthony Bussani - IBM Zurich
Greg Byrd - NCSU/IBM
Brian Carrol - Serena
* Tom Doman - Novell
Andy Hodgkinson - Novell
Valery Kokhan - Parity Ukraine
* David Kuehr-Mclaren -
IBM
* Mike McIntosh - IBM
Dale Olds - Novell
* Uppili
Srinivasan - Oracle
* Drummond Reed -
Cordance
* Bruce Rich - IBM
*Mary
Ruddy - Parity/SocialPhysics
* Markus Sabedello -
Parity
Jim Sermersheim - Novell
George Stanchev - Serena
Daniel Sanders
* Paul Trevithick -
Parity/SocialPhysics
* Brian Walker - Parity
*Jeesmon
* Carl
zurich
Proposed Agenda
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1) [Mary] Higgins 1.0 press release this morning. New
home page. Slightly improved downloads page.
2) [Brian] Status of 1.0.0 build, branch; also status
of 216670
3) Higgins for first timers.
- Firefox-Embedded Solution status
- make it easy to (a) get a selector (b) try it at
sites
4) [Mike] SAML2 / STS IdP merge Planning
5) [Paul]
HSS Planning
The plan to add a new "Higgins Selector Selector"
component to the components page.
The plan to develop HBXFF (analogous to HBXIE) as a
new project under the "Higgins Browser Extensions" category. The plan to retire
the current http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_Embedded-Selector_Extension_for_Firefox.
The plan to develop per-platform {Win, OSX, RPM??}
installers to install:
- HSS
- HBXIE
- HBXFF
- HBXSAF
- oneOf:{AIR, RCP, GTK, or Cocoa} Selector
- anything else?
A new http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_Browser_Extensions page has been created. Also other old HBX pages have been
renamed to add the word "embedded" etc. and thus to make room for the new clean,
HSS-compatible HBXIE and HBXFF (and HBXSAF) extensions.
6) [Tony] Data
Model
7) This week's special topic is on "Changes to
IdASRegistry to reflect the concept of an absolute NodeId, which was created
during the F2F"
8) And if
we get through 9) we could discuss a
simple access control policy proposal for IdAS. Links from http://wiki.eclipse.org/Access_Control_in_IdAS
Meeting
Notes.
1) 1) [Mary] Higgins
1.0 press release this morning. New home page. Slightly improved downloads
page.
[Mary] The Higgins 1.0 press
release went out this morning. It contained quotes from a number of
companies in the Higgins community and can be found at http://www.eclipse.org/org/press-release/20080221_higgins.php
Many thanks to all those who did the work to make Higgins
1.0 software release possible and who supported the
press release. The press release points to the new home page. The
downloads page was tweaked slightly but we still have a lot of work to do in
making it easy for people new to Higgins to find the download that they
want. Please send suggestions for continuing to improve the website/wiki to
the dev list.
[Mary] A release 1.0 is a major milestone.
It is also just the beginning. There
is more work to be done and more ideas to be implemented to support the vision
of user-centric identity.
2) [Brian] Status of 1.0.0 build, branch; also status
of 216670
[Paul] The next topic is the 1.0 builds. What is
the status, as there were problems with the first build
run.
[Brian] We
are running another release build now. Hopefully we will have a build within the hour.
[Mike] Is there anyway to coordinate this
better in the future?
[Brian ]
We can send out an email blast to the dev list for 1.0 and any other major build milestones.
[Paul] Brian this is a
question for me. Will the branch
be done after the release build is successful?
[Brian]
Yes.
3) Higgins for first timers.
- Firefox-Embedded Solution status
- make it easy to (a) get a selector (b) try it at
sites
[Paul] The
next item on the agenda is Higgins for first timers. Mary and I have been doing press interviews and it is very sobering. People say great, lets try it out, and
then we don't have a good place to send them.
[Paul] Even if we just had one wiki page with a
few links to the selectors, it would
help. I will try to
organize a push to do that. If I could get help maybe from you Mike for the RCP selector and maybe Andy for the GTK and cocoa selector. So new people can easily get going with a
selector.
[Mike] OK. I think as a process we should be doing this before we declare victory.
[Paul] I agree. But
there are very few resouces commited to that. It is only the preasure of saying 1.0 that
spurs people to clean things
up.
[Mike] I had no idea there would be press
release going out. It might have motivated
people if they had known about
this.
[Mary] We talked about this in two sessions at the F2F with the release
schedule.
[Mike] We have talked before, but it was not cast in
stone.
[Mike] We
need to have polled developers on whether they are
ready.
[Paul] That is fair.
4) [Mike] SAML2 / STS IdP merge
Planning
[Paul] The next
thing is...
[Brian] I have a comment on
216670. No answer
yet.
[Paul] Item 4 People are asking for a plan. What
is the code ?
[Mike] The answer is we know about a
couple things we need to do. We need a SAML2 token generator built.This is
really not that hard. Is just a
question of where this is
on priorities. I wish
Tony was on the call to speak to priorities.
[Paul] OK.
[Paul ]
In next fews days need to sequence
the next milestones. I'm assuming
this is a long term thing.
5) [Paul]
HSS Planning
The plan to add a new "Higgins Selector Selector"
component to the components page.
The plan to develop HBXFF (analogous to HBXIE) as a
new project under the "Higgins Browser Extensions" category. The plan to retire
the current http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_Embedded-Selector_Extension_for_Firefox
.
The plan to develop per-platform {Win, OSX, RPM??}
installers to install:
- HSS
- HBXIE
- HBXFF
- HBXSAF
- oneOf:{AIR, RCP, GTK, or Cocoa} Selector
- anything else?
A new http://wiki.eclipse.org/Higgins_Browser_Extensions
page has been created. Also other old HBX pages have been
renamed to add the word "embedded" etc. and thus to make room for the new clean,
HSS-compatible HBXIE and HBXFF (and HBXSAF)
extensions.
[Paul] The next topic is HSS. We have the beginnings of a Higgins selector selector.
And a new air based selector is in
the works. We need to understand the plan. Mike you are the component
owner of the SS. I want to talk about how to coordinate our efforts.
[Mike] I apologize for not having the card schema thing done yet. We probably have to start documenting the
interfaces so that we can divide the work
up. So the interface between the SS and
each selector, for example needs
to be done. Unfortunately don't have the resources. We do need to divide the
work.
[Many] Agreed.
[Paul]
That is sensible.
[Mike] If you have something started, it would be
great if you could share it.
[Paul] Right. Jeesmon do you want to say any more. This is an area needing more planning and
coordinating.
[Mike] We
need to bounce around the architectural
decision.
[Paul] Agreed. I've seen a HSS, two browsers and two selectors that are not yet
contributed.
[Mike] Most of these extensions need to be written
in C++.
[Jeesmon] Yes.
[Mike]
These will be platform specific when they build. It 's hard to know exactly what
architecture we are building
to.
[Paul] I
completely agree. We need to
carefully document and coordinate our architectures. This will be painful to change
later. Mike since you volunteered to be the component owner can you draft a proposal for coordinating.
[Mike] I
agree. Didn't know there was so much
activity going on.
[Paul] The next topic is a special topic proposed by
Markus.
[Markus] At the F2F we came up with the idea of
absolute node id's. Is Jim on the call?
[Tom] No, he
is on a customer call.
[Paul] Then we should defer until next week.
[Paul] The next item is
HOWL. I sent an update link http://wiki.eclipse.org/HOWL_Update. To the dev
list.
[Paul] There is access control required for the rcard. If no one has had any time to review the proposal,
we can have a conversation later after it has been reviewed.
[Paul] Have you had a chance to look yet?
[Pau] Would there be interest in a focused call on access control next week?
[Tom]
Yes.
[Paul] In the meantime, I will try to put more flesh on the
bone.
[Paul ] I will put an email out to the dev list
with a proposed time for next week, and links for stuff to look at ahead of
time.
[Many] OK.
[Mary] Tony is
not on the call so we should defer the data model
conversation.
[David] I can
speak to that. It is the abiltiy to point to an attribute.
[Paul]
Drummond has been bugging me
about that.
[Drummond] Yes, and it is not just for logical completeness. We find in xdi we need to do this all the
time.
[Tom]
Based on what I see, I thought
we were agreed, and that this was
resolved.
[Paul] I will look at the emails from last week.
[Tom] I have a question on the 1.0.0 release. We have been working on bug fixes to the jndi context
provider.
[Paul] Branch hasn't happened. It is almost here. Brian we are doing a build right
now
[Brian] Yes. If it is successful, we will
branch.
[Paul] When this
occurs you can checkin.
[Paul] Thanks
everyone.
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