Re: [ejb-dev] [jakartaee-tck-dev] Question about removing failing EJB le

[Scott Marlow <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 9/9/20 11:08 AM, Lance Andersen wrote:
> > On Sep 9, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Scott Marlow <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx 
> > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/9/20 10:40 AM, Lance Andersen wrote:
> > > The intent of the compatibility tests are exactly that compatibility 
> > > with the older Java EE releases. They should either be supported as 
> > > is or removed.
> >
> > Agreed although we are also giving the EJB SPEC team the opportunity 
> > to consider if they would like to turn these failing tests into new 
> > (optional) BMP/CMP tests that use Jakarta EE 8+ schemas.
>
> If this is done, which is certainly a choice, they should be either be 
> treated as compatibility tests starting with Jakarta EE 8 or moved from 
> the compatXX folders
>
> Lets not confused J2EE tests with Jakarta tests in regards to 
> compatibility…

Good points, having non-compat tests in a folder named compat would be 
very confusing.

> HTH

Yes, thanks for speaking up (that always helps :-)

Scott

> Lance
> > > Given this is Jakarta EE and not Java EE then you should remove these 
> > > unless you are supporting the Java EE XSDs. Â They are not the same 
> > > test otherwise.
> >
> > As per 
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jakarta.ee/specifications/platform/9/platform-spec-9-SNAPSHOT.html*a3447__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!Pg1wp6-KqdsUn8vtnLWyE8Ou_XPBDEYmBZMAXVgCpcwMAhs_n3Vq8A3zE_FCMXjONg$ 
> >  we should remove these tests.  Or we could change these tests into 
> > non-compat tests.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
> >
> > > HTH
> > > Lance
> > > > On Sep 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro 
> > > > <jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> > > > <mailto:jlmonteiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On top of my head, there is only Interop and JAX-RPC related 
> > > > features/tests pruned.
> > > > Entity CMP/BMP are part of the optional spec (as opposed to required).
> > > >
> > > > But one may still want to implement and therefore test it, isn't it?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jean-Louis Monteiro
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:51 PM Scott Marlow <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx 
> > > > <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >    Hi,
> > > >
> > > >    Does the EJB team have input to share on removing legacy EJB
> > > >    BMP/CMP compatibility tests that were written to test J2EE
> > > >    1.2/1.3/1.4?
> > > >
> > > >    As part of the conversion to use Jakarta EE 9 XSDs  [1], we
> > > >    updated 1.2/1.3/1.4 BMP/CMP compatibility tests.  Now that we are
> > > >    seeing test failures [2].  We are wondering if we should instead
> > > >    remove failing tests [3][4][5].
> > > >
> > > >    We updated these tests to use the Jakarta EE 9 XSDs because
> > > >    Jakarta EE 9 implementations are only required to support Jakarta
> > > >    EE 8+ schemas.
> > > >
> > > >    Could the EJB team give a quick answer on this (by Sept 10)?  If
> > > >    more than a few days is needed, please do indicate so.
> > > >
> > > >    Scott
> > > >
> > > >    [1] 
> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/pull/474__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Pg1wp6-KqdsUn8vtnLWyE8Ou_XPBDEYmBZMAXVgCpcwMAhs_n3Vq8A3zE_H1cf224Q$ 
> > > >     <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/pull/474__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Lgv7cmsd7HS2ffs219Yk2h3Dyz2VY-1xPs0t8VoQq7aYckP5mkYzMn7MasZyPXtVSQ$>
> > > >    [2]
> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/pull/474*issuecomment-688278559__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!Pg1wp6-KqdsUn8vtnLWyE8Ou_XPBDEYmBZMAXVgCpcwMAhs_n3Vq8A3zE_HoT3aBRQ$ 
> > > >     <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/pull/474*issuecomment-688278559__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!Lgv7cmsd7HS2ffs219Yk2h3Dyz2VY-1xPs0t8VoQq7aYckP5mkYzMn7MasYk7sbjxg$>
> > > >    [3]
> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/blob/master/src/com/sun/ts/tests/ejb/ee/deploy/entity/bmp/compat13_14/Client.java*L76__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!Pg1wp6-KqdsUn8vtnLWyE8Ou_XPBDEYmBZMAXVgCpcwMAhs_n3Vq8A3zE_HqpGxvow$ 
> > > >     <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/blob/master/src/com/sun/ts/tests/ejb/ee/deploy/entity/bmp/compat13_14/Client.java*L76__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!Lgv7cmsd7HS2ffs219Yk2h3Dyz2VY-1xPs0t8VoQq7aYckP5mkYzMn7MasYd1QDz4g$>
> > > >    [4]
> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/blob/master/src/com/sun/ts/tests/ejb/ee/deploy/entity/bmp/compat12_13/Client.java*L78__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!Pg1wp6-KqdsUn8vtnLWyE8Ou_XPBDEYmBZMAXVgCpcwMAhs_n3Vq8A3zE_GLyLrZrg$ 
> > > >     <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/blob/master/src/com/sun/ts/tests/ejb/ee/deploy/entity/bmp/compat12_13/Client.java*L78__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!Lgv7cmsd7HS2ffs219Yk2h3Dyz2VY-1xPs0t8VoQq7aYckP5mkYzMn7MasYRd_ZoPQ$>
> > > >    [5]
> > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/blob/master/src/com/sun/ts/tests/ejb/ee/deploy/entity/cmp11/compat12_14/Client.java__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Pg1wp6-KqdsUn8vtnLWyE8Ou_XPBDEYmBZMAXVgCpcwMAhs_n3Vq8A3zE_EONcbu4Q$ 
> > > >     <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck/blob/master/src/com/sun/ts/tests/ejb/ee/deploy/entity/cmp11/compat12_14/Client.java__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!Lgv7cmsd7HS2ffs219Yk2h3Dyz2VY-1xPs0t8VoQq7aYckP5mkYzMn7MasauwLEoKg$>
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