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Re: [ejb-dev] Request for review on PR# 74 and 75

Hussain,
Thanks for the information.  One thing...  Your Pass #2 mentions to "publish" the Jakarta Enterprise Beans 3.2 spec.  You can't do publicly publish a new revision of the Spec without going through a formal Spec Review process -- which I would advise against.  Your team's time would be better spent on advancing Pass #3 and prep for the 4.0 version of the Spec.  You can still do the Jakarta-izing (changing Java EE to Jakarta EE) in your Pass #2.  Just don't plan on publishing a new release of the Spec.  Thanks!

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From:        <Hussain.NM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date:        03/04/2020 12:34
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [ejb-dev] Request for review on PR# 74 and 75




Yes, Kevin you are right about the PR not being focused on converting Java EE to Jakarta EE.

What I have in mind is to do the following:
  • Pass 1: Format the specification document AS-IS to match the Java EE version 8. (2 weeks)
  • Pass 2: Change references from Java EE to Jakarta EE and publish it as Jakarta Enterprise Beans 3.2 (replace the current straw man) (1 week)
  • Pass 3: Make updates to package name, schema, removals etc. and get it ready for Jakarta Enterprise Beans 4.0 (2 weeks)
Thanks
Hussain



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RE: [ejb-dev] Request for review on PR# 74 and 75

 

Thanks for the review, Bill!  I agree with your comment about JSR 109 being in Jakarta EE 8.

My one comment is whether you were looking to do the Jakarta EE 9 changes with this commit or not.  Some of my earlier comments on the other PRs were not accepted (yet) since you were just focused on getting to the Jakarta EE 8 equivalent.  If that's still the case, then increasing all of the Spec version levels is pre-mature.  But, since the end goal is to get this Spec ready for Jakarta EE 9, then let's do all of the required changes now. Thanks!

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I just scanned the table but it looked right to me.

However, JSR 109 is in Jakarta EE 9.  It's
Jakarta Enterprise Web Services 1.4.

Hussain.NM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwrote on 3/3/20 9:53 PM:

Regarding the changes requested in PR #75, I would like to know if the below table depicts the expected changes:


Existing
New
[[[a9850, 1]]] Enterprise JavaBeans™, version 3.2. (this specification)

 http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=345.

[[[a9850, 1]]] Jakarta Enterprise Beans (Core) 4.0. (this specification)  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/enterprise-beans/4.0/.

[[[a9851, 2]]] Java™ Persistence API, version 2.1.

 http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=338

[[[a9851, 2]]] Jakarta Persistence 3.0.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/persistence/3.0/

[[[a9857, 8]]] Java™ Transaction API, version 1.2 (JTA).  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=907.

[[[a9857, 8]]] Jakarta Transactions 2.0.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/transactions/2.0/.

[[[a9861, 12]]] Java™ Platform, Enterprise Edition Specification Version 7 (Java EE).

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=342

[[[a9861, 12]]] Jakarta EE Platform 9.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/platform/9/.

[[[a9862, 13]]] Java™ Message Service, version 2.0 (JMS).  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=343.

[[[a9862, 13]]] Jakarta Messaging 3.0.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/messaging/3.0/.

[[[a9863, 14]]] Java EE™ Connector Architecture, version 1.7 (Connector).  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=322.

[[[a9863, 14]]] Jakarta Connectors 2.0.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/connectors/2.0/.

[[[a9873, 24]]] Java™ API for XML-based RPC, version 1.1 (JAX-RPC).  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=101.

[[[a9873, 24]]] Jakarta XML RPC 1.1.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/xml-rpc/1.1/.

[[[a9878, 29]]] Web Services Metadata for the Java Platform, version 2.1.  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=181.

[[[a9878, 29]]] Jakarta Web Services Metadata 3.0.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/web-services-metadata/3.0/.

[[[a9881, 31]]] Java™ API for XML-based Web Service, version 2.2 (JAX-WS).

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=224.

[[[a9881, 31]]] Jakarta XML Web Services 3.0.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/xml-web-services/3.0/

[[[a9886, 36]]] Managed Beans, version 1.0 (Managed Beans).  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=316.

[[[a9886, 36]]] Jakarta Managed Beans 2.0.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/managedbeans/2.0/.

[[[a9887, 37]]] Interceptors, version 1.2.  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=318.

[[[a9887, 37]]] Jakarta Interceptors 2.0.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/interceptors/2.0/.

[[[a9888, 38]]] Contexts and Dependency Injection for the Java EE Platform 1.1 (CDI specification)  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=346.

[[[a9888, 38]]] Jakarta Context Dependency Injection 3.0  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/cdi/3.0/.

[[[a9889, 39]]] The Java API for RESTful Web Services, version 2.0 (JAX-RS)  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=339.

[[[a9889, 39]]] Jakarta RESTful Web Services 3.0  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/restful-ws/3.0/.

[[[a9890, 40]]] EJB 3.2 Optional Features  

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=345

[[[a9890, 40]]] Jakarta Enterprise Beans (Optional) 4.0.  

https://jakarta.ee/specifications/enterprise-beans/4.0/.

 

Regarding JSR-109, since it is not in Jakarta EE we can refer to the JCP document but I believe the concepts are implemented in Glassfish.
[[[a9879, 30]]] Web Services for Java EE, version 1.3.
http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=109.
can be updated to
[[[a9879, 30]]] Web Services for Java EE™, version 1.4.
http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=109.

Similarly Java Transaction Service is also not in Jakarta EE.
[[[a9858, 9]]] Java™ Transaction Service, version 1.0 (JTS).
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/jts-spec095-1508547.pdf.

Thanks

Hussain

 

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I reviewed PR #74 yesterday and it looks great.  Looking at PR #75 this morning.  But, since neither myself or Hussain have write access to this repo, we need some assistance to get these merged.  Can we get a quick review, approval, and merge from someone on the EJB team?  Thanks!

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I took a stab at formatting the specification document. I selected chapter 11 Enterprise Bean Environment and made the following changes:

  • Change italics to monospace for keywords
  • Change link to xref
  • Move anchors before section heading
  • Add source block for code
  • Change header level for subsections
  • Add monospace for keywords
  • Change curly quotes to straight quotes
  • Add ordered and numbered list where applicable
  • Added footnotes
Attached the diff for PR# 74

The second PR is for chapter 20 Related Documents. I have converted the custom ID into bibliography with custom label which displays the number. This is done to match with the existing document.

Attached the diff for
PR# 75

Please review and let me know if any changes are required.

Thanks
Hussain

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