Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] OpenJDK going GPL, EPLv2... => ca

[Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

As far as the AC is concerned, we need to discuss whether we want to get into the business of shipping a JRE with the Eclipse Packages and all its technical implications (think security vulnerabilities, response time, communications, respins, etc.) or whether we want to delegate this to an external entity (eg., Linux distribution packager/maintainers).

Linux is a minority of users; many users are still failing to use Eclipse IDE on Mac because of some JRE issues, the dependency to Java being pre-installed is a reason why some developers simply will never install Eclipse IDE.

Instead, they can download VSCode, which includes the node runtime, or some JetBrains IDE, which includes a JRE, and it works. It's a competitive disadvantage we need to eventually get rid of, unless we're all fine losing or not capturing users.

Bluntly speaking, I have strong reservations that we have the resources currently to manage such a process with the infrastructure at hand and voluntary time of contributors.

Some companies have RCP apps which already embed the JRE, maybe they'd like to see this shared at Eclipse.org, as a ready-to-use p2 artifact provided by Orbit or some other project.

Oh and last but not least, we do have an EPLv2 licensed JVM at Eclipse:

https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.openj9

It doesn't provide binaries, though.

That would indeed be nice and simpler to use it indeed.

Has anyone tried it to run the Eclipse IDE or whichever RCP app? Has anyone ever tried to p2-ify it?