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Re: [eclipse-ide-wg] Eclipse IDE article on dev.java?

Hi Daniel,

Thank you for providing a first draft! I did a quick review and it looks well-crafted from the get-go.
- The key combinations you mentioned should work for Unix, I'm not sure about MacOS.
- The article content appears correct
- You also seem to have covered many of the basics, though maybe you want to talk a little bit about navigation (Ctrl-click, F4, Ctrl-O, Ctrl-Shift-T, Ctrl-Shift-R, Alt-Shift-G, and Alt-Shift-H)
- Sadly, I don't know of any authoritative youtube channels
- Calling it "Eclipse" as you did is fine

Best regards,
Titouan

Op ma 15 apr 2024 om 14:11 schreef Daniel Schmid via eclipse-ide-wg <eclipse-ide-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

Hi again,

I just want to mention that I wrote the article which is up for review.
The pull request is available here: https://github.com/java/devjava-content/pull/77
I have also included a full-text screenshot of the rendered article as an attachment.

While it is Oracle employees who have the final say on what goes in the repository and what doesn't, anyone can write comments/ideas/etc.

Please keep in mind the following:
- Oracle requires all contributors to sign the OCA. So if anyone actually wants to provide feedback (according to https://github.com/java/devjava-content/issues/68#issuecomment-2031579638, this is necessary even if someone just wants to provide feedback!), please make sure to do that.
- This article should show beginners how to get started with the Eclipse IDE. It shouldn't contain excessive links or much other clutter. It should not excessively promote the Eclipse IDE but instead help new Java developers get started with it.
- It is not supposed to be a complete Eclipse IDE tutorial of any sort.
- I think discussions about the content of the article should take place in the PR and not in this mailing list.

I would be specifically interested in the following
- Can someone verify the key combinations I mentioned (especially for MacOS)?
- Is everything in the article correct?
- Are there important sections with immediate importance to new programmers I forgot to include?
- It is possible to include YouTube videos in a "More learning" section. Is there a somewhat authoritative Eclipse tutorial or similar video that would help beginners?
- Is it ok how I just called the Eclipse IDE "Eclipse" in most of the article?

Yours,
Daniel


On 14.03.24 12:22, Daniel Schmid via eclipse-ide-wg wrote:

(I accidentially forgot to reply to the mailing list and sent it directly at first)


Hi Noopur,

There is not really an expected timeframe. I just requested to have an article about the EclipseIDE as well (though that didn't get a response from Oracle's Java DevRel team yet - it might be a good idea to contact them directly if there is interest from within the Eclipse Foundation).
I mainly wrote the E-Mail so you all know about what happened on that site.

I am open to you co-authoring (or you writing the article and me looking over it once the PR is created if you prefer that).

However, note that contributing to the dev.java site requires signing the Oracle Contributor agreement.

Regarding an outline, I am also fairly open to anything (including a similar structure as the IntelliJ article as well as a different structure) but I have also provided an idea of possible topics in my request issue (https://github.com/java/devjava-content/issues/68).

Yours,
Daniel
On 12.03.24 20:57, Daniel Schmid via eclipse-ide-wg wrote:

Dear members of the Eclipse IDE working group,

As you might know, Oracle maintains a site dev.java which contains many beginner-friendly articles about Java topics.
I want to make sure you know that recently, they have been approached by a JetBrains employee and allowed them to write an article about IntelliJ (PR here: https://github.com/java/devjava-content/pull/70).

Since I think there should also be an article about the Eclipse IDE I have requested that in another issue (https://github.com/java/devjava-content/issues/68).
If anyone in this mailing list prefers to write that article (or to get in contact with the Java DevRel group about it) instead of me, I have no issue with someone else writing it.

Yours,
Daniel


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