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Re: [e4-dev] 4.3 Plans / API etc

Hello Dev-Team

 

I would like to encourage to look at Bug 389663 or what Paul calls a “better fragment processing story w/ merging”.

 

Greetings

Christoph Keimel

 

 

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Von: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Tom Schindl
Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Februar 2013 23:16
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Betreff: Re: [e4-dev] 4.3 Plans / API etc

 

Hi Eric,

 

Over the top priority - not API but I would trade *any* API to this one:

* Get rid of timerExec

 

My top priorities are:

* nesting of parts

* better lifecycle for model elements (bug 392903) - if we can get a

  general agreement I'll work on this for M6

 

Generic-Rendering:

As you know I've implemented a new rendering engine from scratch for my e(fx)clipse project. The problem with the generic stuff is that SWT is so much different than other Toolkits that I don't think having a generic renderer makes sense.

 

e(fx)clipse is coming to Eclipse.org in the next month(s) which makes no compromise and exploits the toolkit features available completely. Take a look on my code and you'll see what I mean.

 

I think the platform-teams time is spent better in other areas but that's my personal opinion, I'm not afraid of having the platform being a competitor when it comes to rendering engines ;-)

 

Tom

 

Am 05.02.13 20:54, schrieb Eric Moffatt:

>

> Finally ! With 4.2SR2 on its way out the door I /finally/  get to turn

> my focus back to 4.3 and the future.

>

> First off is a big thank you to everybody involved for either helping

> out or at least being patient about not being as free to change e4 as

> I know you'd like.

>

> This will be a discussion topic for this week's e4 meeting and

> everybody is welcome.

>

> *Where are we ?*

>

> I ask the question because most of the last year and a half is just a

> blur to me. I know we've talked about many things but I've certainly

> lost track of most of them. Please speak up if there are things that

> we've been holding off on in order to have a stable foundation for the

> service release(s).

>

> My highest priority concern is to nail down the API (since I have to

> present it at EclipseCon...;-). We can still make changes in the API

> and model while getting the information together but only if we start

> pretty soon. This will allow us to make some of the changes we've

> already discussed like Parts within Parts...I'd like to get a working

> group together to hammer out the details (maybe we could schedule some

> meetings at least at the beginning ?).

>

> I'm in the process of gathering up what we have so the first question

> is how would we like to do that, In a bugzilla (with related ones for

> each area CSS, Model, DI, services) ? In  a GoogleDoc ? Some other way ?

>

> *Where do we want to go ?*

>

> As the effort on the compatibility layer starts to subside (we're not

> finished but we are down to true corner cases now IMO) we should be

> examining how we move the whole platform forwards over time. The two

> main themes I'm aware of are:

>

> - Moving the platform towards a platform agnostic approach (i.e. not

> so closely tied to SWT) by examining where we can add new agnostic

> superclasses into our current code...

>

> - Blurring the current separation of e4 and the IDE by

>    - allowing current IDE features to be used in e4 without having to

> bring in the whole IDE

>    - allowing the IDE to host e4 implementations by loosening up some

> of the constraints in our current extension points / API

>

> Are there others ?

>

> Ah, time to have some fun :-) I really want to have some 'real' New &

> Noteworthy entries for M6 forwards, I'm sick of having to answer the

> question "What can Eclipse 4 do that 3.x couldn't?" with the word

> "Nothing"...split editors anyone ?

>

> Thanks again,

> Eric

>

>

>

>

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