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dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:32
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Subject: FW: [dsdp-pmc] FW:
Requirements Council - Themese for embedded
Sounds like a good selection Martin.
Definitely embedded linux and gdb play with our existing efforts with the gnu
tools and linux in general and mobile Java will hopefully bring projects like
eRCP more into the mainstream.
BTW, I’ve talked to Doug G about
this but I’m keen on seeing support for jtag debuggers improve with
Eclipse. It’s been done but people have had to jump through hoops to make
it happen. And with more and more jtag vendors supporting the gdb remote
interface, we may have a role in promoting it’s defacto standardization,
at least in the context of Eclipse. I’d look forward to working with
anyone to help make that happen.
Cheers,
Doug S.
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dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber,
Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006
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Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] FW:
Requirements Council - Themese for embedded
Hi,
I agree with DougS that we need to have a
sense for common workflows that we can support with ready-made exemplary
tools. A problem may be that embedded devices may vary greatly. I'd see
the biggest chances for "commonly used" devices with
- embedded linux
- mobile java
- gdb based debugging
(gdbserver; are there drivers for running gdb on jtag debuggers?)
For things like Flash programming I guess
it's more difficult since the types of hardware vary greatly.
Another need I see for Eclipse is to come
up with a better model for searching and installing plugins. Something linke
the Linux package installers (yum, apt, ...) that can search online
repositories. But I guess that's more for the Platform and not so much for DSDP
(though somebody mentioned it on the eclipse.dsdp newsgroup).
Cheers,
Martin
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From:
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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:53
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Subject: [dsdp-pmc] FW: Requirements
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From: Doug Schaefer
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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:34
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To: Gaff, Doug; DSDP PMC list; Doug Schaefer
Subject: RE: Requirements Council
- Themese for embedded
Certainly I think it is
important for Europa that we have our first set of frameworks and exemplary
tools that improve support embedded development and to further enable
ISV’s delivering tools for the embedded market. But, that’s
probably obvious.
We’ve talked a lot
about frameworks so far in the DSDP. We should probably have a sense of the
common workflows we want to support with the exemplary tools. Embedded Linux is
a hot topic, or maybe a simple roll your own embedded image support would fit
the bill. What I’m really hoping for is to have a minimal set of
functionality at Eclipse that is flashy enough that we can take to the press
and trade shows to show off Eclipse’s embedded development support.
Frameworks are important for vendor customization and need to be in the requirements
as well. But to really get that home run with the press, we need to show
something end user consumable in the open.
Your mileage may vary, of
course.
Cheers,
From: Gaff,
Doug [mailto:doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:16
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To: DSDP
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Subject: Requirements Council -
Themese for embedded
Hi DSDP PMC and Doug S,
At the requirements council
tomorrow, we’re going to work on the Themes and Priorities for the next
Eclipse release. I know a couple of you will be there, but I wanted to
ping the whole group to see if there are some items you’d like to add to
the embedded section:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/RequirementsCouncil06TP
I’ll work on some things for
DD. For the rest of you, perhaps you might want to put a few high-level
bullet items for your various embedded / mobile projects.
Doug G