Sounds like a good
selection Martin. Definitely embedded linux and gdb play with our existing
efforts with the gnu tools and linux in general and mobile Java will hopefully
bring projects like eRCP more into the mainstream.
BTW, I’ve talked to
Doug G about this but I’m keen on seeing support for jtag debuggers
improve with Eclipse. It’s been done but people have had to jump through
hoops to make it happen. And with more and more jtag vendors supporting the gdb
remote interface, we may have a role in promoting it’s defacto
standardization, at least in the context of Eclipse. I’d look forward to
working with anyone to help make that happen.
Cheers,
Doug S.
From:
dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber,
Martin
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006
5:59 AM
To: DSDP
PMC list
Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] FW:
Requirements Council - Themese for embedded
Hi,
I agree with DougS that
we need to have a sense for common workflows that we can support with
ready-made exemplary tools. A problem may be that embedded devices may
vary greatly. I'd see the biggest chances for "commonly used" devices
with
- embedded
linux
- mobile
java
- gdb based
debugging (gdbserver; are there drivers for running gdb on jtag
debuggers?)
For things like Flash
programming I guess it's more difficult since the types of hardware vary
greatly.
Another need I see for
Eclipse is to come up with a better model for searching and installing plugins.
Something linke the Linux package installers (yum, apt, ...) that can search
online repositories. But I guess that's more for the Platform and not so much
for DSDP (though somebody mentioned it on the eclipse.dsdp newsgroup).
Cheers,
Martin
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Martin Oberhuber - WindRiver,
Austria
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From:
dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:53
PM
To: DSDP
PMC list
Subject: [dsdp-pmc] FW: Requirements
Council - Themese for embedded
From:
Doug Schaefer [mailto:DSchaefer@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:34
PM
To: Gaff, Doug; DSDP PMC list; Doug Schaefer
Subject: RE: Requirements Council
- Themese for embedded
Certainly I think it is important for
Europa that we have our first set of frameworks and exemplary tools that
improve support embedded development and to further enable ISV’s
delivering tools for the embedded market. But, that’s probably obvious.
We’ve talked a lot about frameworks
so far in the DSDP. We should probably have a sense of the common workflows we
want to support with the exemplary tools. Embedded Linux is a hot topic, or
maybe a simple roll your own embedded image support would fit the bill. What
I’m really hoping for is to have a minimal set of functionality at
Eclipse that is flashy enough that we can take to the press and trade shows to
show off Eclipse’s embedded development support. Frameworks are important
for vendor customization and need to be in the requirements as well. But to
really get that home run with the press, we need to show something end user
consumable in the open.
Your mileage may vary, of course.
Cheers,
From:
Gaff, Doug [mailto:doug.gaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:16
PM
To: DSDP
PMC list; Doug Schaefer
Subject: Requirements Council -
Themese for embedded
Hi DSDP PMC and Doug S,
At the requirements
council tomorrow, we’re going to work on the Themes and Priorities for
the next Eclipse release. I know a couple of you will be there, but I
wanted to ping the whole group to see if there are some items you’d like
to add to the embedded section:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/RequirementsCouncil06TP
I’ll work on some
things for DD. For the rest of you, perhaps you might want to put a few
high-level bullet items for your various embedded / mobile projects.
Doug G