Skip to main content

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] [List Home]
Re: [data-dev] [EXTERNAL] Re: reminder: no changes aside from directly related to JPQL subset feature
  • From: Ed Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 21:37:01 +0000
  • Accept-language: en-US
  • Arc-authentication-results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=microsoft.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=microsoft.com; dkim=pass header.d=microsoft.com; arc=none
  • Arc-message-signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=o9Esu0zIX84klFdFc+nJhfgqfufhyezuwyc5mP2WCDg=; b=WsATbiSQRPyCGigGBFi7hNiJbZJ2j99WE8QdgeLz2tsRTfGB38jKshmI6E85+4E+HoNOewP5xadXQ7JnCAStzBnxaJ1qcKI6yL7D68TKWntMTw87hqyjnNe63wV4YXP23/LlEjr6A8gt+jxiXnCXNFsD4eNBWV+/1hw4JqWLaBtE/oSk5fI90kdIOvSiwmpz8lq5wkvc3SKUSko79/+Kn6eU/Fy6gfruaESpDNDl0cCezcamytCI9C9Nx27aXy8CGk6f0hpLJHmzh8nMLvBW6I2Ah2tF4mSw/JYsbAauLb3xEzrW20ah2dW+WzOGQqQOps7vsw9GVn0ajsUdFcYqAg==
  • Arc-seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=kohL+rKwhAOpyfXJxORMYWNTcsKGqPiZ+Yr8+N7UXC79yQi/Yg0EnzDMa/9FeCEATTHU2zmJ5llisY6tyGkxdnGeBzQ+aT4o0LGksAQKnvYxhRGjFTFv0CHAJvwtaEgxx/c5tNmU3lpwnYO7XoFYLsOVTey/KinGoTh5XqFKErvXR/sCGSjr2hHypsHXlCrWpqC0+alI2Pn2ioJ0qyNCTzK/EHtj9S/cnrYR7GB9S8PyYGezoZMMgaa6D2+cjveykKIqPhsbtzmCM+wXpgiOQy0Z5H97k7P3ZObtQBhp20Am40rteldJCkwXLSifFd0UG4D80Z6meLLjfcf3cCaHIw==
  • Delivered-to: data-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • List-archive: <https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/private/data-dev/>
  • List-help: <mailto:data-dev-request@eclipse.org?subject=help>
  • List-subscribe: <https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/data-dev>, <mailto:data-dev-request@eclipse.org?subject=subscribe>
  • List-unsubscribe: <https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/options/data-dev>, <mailto:data-dev-request@eclipse.org?subject=unsubscribe>
  • Msip_labels: MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Enabled=True; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_SiteId=72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_SetDate=2024-03-19T21:28:52.2200993Z; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_ContentBits=0; MSIP_Label_f42aa342-8706-4288-bd11-ebb85995028c_Method=Standard
  • Thread-index: AQHaejlz819nVJoSJky0knnWyucpnLE/hCeAgAAQR5Q=
  • Thread-topic: [EXTERNAL] Re: [data-dev] reminder: no changes aside from directly related to JPQL subset feature

Thanks for your reply, Gavin, letting ya’ll do your job is exactly what I’m trying to do. My understanding was that there were other changes aside from those directly related to the JPQL subset feature. If I am misunderstanding, please accept my apologies.

 

Gavin King wrote:

 

> Perhaps you got confused because there was also some discussion going on in the issue

> tracker regarding changes which might in future releases of Jakarta Data. I don’t see

> how such discussions impede the delivery of Jakarta Data, and I think it’s

> inappropriate to suggest that they shouldn’t take place.

 

My understanding was that, beyond discussions, there were merges that were not related to the JPQL subset feature. If I am misunderstanding, I seek clarity from Nathan.

 

> For the record, I have dedicated many hours of my time over the last weeks to ensuring

> that this specification is delivered on time and in a form that meets the needs of the community.

> We are on or ahead of track.

 

As a fellow long-time EE advocate, I deeply appreciate your time and expertise. I’m beyond delighted to hear things are on or ahead of track.  The JPQL subset feature is a big differentiator and value creator. I’m glad to see it going in.

 

Thanks for providing the opportunity to clarify.

 

Thanks,

 

Ed

 

| edburns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | office: +1 954 727 1095

| Calendar Booking: https://aka.ms/meetedburns

|

| Come to JavaLand in Germany on 9 – 11 April 2024 https://javaland.eu

|

| Please don't feel obliged to read or reply to this e-mail outside

| of your normal working hours.

|

| Reply anonymously to this email: https://purl.oclc.org/NET/edburns/contact

 

From: Gavin King <gavin.king@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 16:30
To: data developer discussions <data-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Ed Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [data-dev] reminder: no changes aside from directly related to JPQL subset feature

You don't often get email from gavin.king@xxxxxxxxx. Learn why this is important

Hi, I’m not sure I understand.

 

The specification of JDQL is completed and merged, and we are dealing with the blast radius of that major change. I invite you, at your convenience, to review the new chapter 5 of the Data specification, which specifies the new Jakarta Data Query Language.

 

The discussions currently underway are direct consequences of this change, as you may easily verify for yourself by reviewing the open pull requests. If you have any further doubts about this, I’m happy to walk you through the work we’ve done and provide context for the mopping up that is currently going on, in person, on gchat or whatever, at your convenience.

 

Perhaps you got confused because there was also some discussion going on in the issue tracker regarding changes which might in future releases of Jakarta Data. I don’t see how such discussions impede the delivery of Jakarta Data, and I think it’s inappropriate to suggest that they shouldn’t take place.

 

For the record, I have dedicated many hours of my time over the last weeks to ensuring that this specification is delivered on time and in a form that meets the needs of the community. We are on or ahead of track.

 

In short, and in the lighthearted spirit of “cut it out”, I invited you, Ed, in turn, to “butt out” and let us do our job. Thanks.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 19, 2024, at 9:11PM, Ed Burns via data-dev <data-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Hello data-dev community

 

At today's platform project call, it was brought to my attention that changes unrelated to the one allowable change (JPQL subset feature) are still being made even though the agreed upon 2024-03-08 deadline for such changes has passed.

 

I am writing to this list in my capacity as release co-coordinator for EE 1 to say, politely but firmly, cut it out. The agreement was that changes would be laser focused on just doing what was necessary to win the support of the stakeholders: introducing the JPQL subset query feature.

 

I acknowledge my being a non-member of this community may reduce the authority of this missive, but I observe ya'll can't afford to slow down progress toward wrapping up your minimum viable 1.0 spec.

 

Thanks,

 

Ed Burns

Jakarta EE 11 release co-coordinator.

 

 

| edburns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | office: +1 954 727 1095

| Calendar Booking: https://aka.ms/meetedburns

|

| Come to JavaLand in Germany on 9 – 11 April 2024 https://javaland.eu

|

| Please don't feel obliged to read or reply to this e-mail outside

| of your normal working hours.

|

| Reply anonymously to this email: https://purl.oclc.org/NET/edburns/contact

_______________________________________________
data-dev mailing list
data-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this list, visit https://accounts.eclipse.org


Back to the top