Jimmy,
I personally use a lot of JVMs (IBM and Sun, Java 5 and 6
on Windows, Linux, and z/OS) but I usually run Eclipse on XP with the Sun
JDK 5 or sometimes Linux with Sun or IBM
JDKs.
As far as I know, when Compuware has bundled a JRE
with a product it has always been a Sun JRE.
BTW, the IBM JVMs are available for download
here:
Don
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Behalf Of Mohsin, Jimmy Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:10
AM To: Cosmos Dev Subject: [cosmos-dev] COSMOS i9 QA - Java
considerations
Team,
·
The CA hardware has -
SUN JDK 1.5.0_13
·
IBM has IBM Java5
SR5
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Don / Joel, what
flavor of Java do you use at Compuware?
Is the difference in
Java being used for the same software deliverable a cause for concern? I
guess in theory Java is Java… but what does your practical expertise
say?
Thanks,
Jimmy
Mohsin
Cell
+1-609-635-1703
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Behalf Of Doma, Srinivas Reddy Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008
10:46 AM To: Cosmos Dev; Cosmos Dev Subject: RE:
[cosmos-dev] COSMOS i9 QA - platform considerations
&dependencydiagram
Jimmy,
QA is
using the following platforms and versions : - For windows, Windows XP SP2
and Windows 2003 SP1 - For linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server 5.0 -
Java, SUN JDK 1.5.0_13 - Browsers, Firefox version (2.0.0.11) & Internet
Explorer (6.0.2900.2180.XP SP2) - Tomcat, Tomcat
5.5.25
Thanks, Srinivas
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platform considerations & dependencydiagram
I thought I remembered QA
(from CA) indicating that IBM Java is difficult to obtain outside IBM.
Do we want to put Sun's JRE as more of a priority in testing, esp. on
Windows, considering it's way more pervasive in
the industry?
David
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Kishore / Srini,
Can you please
confirm the Linux & Java versions from the CA end?
Thanks, Jimmy
Mohsin Cell +1-609-635-1703
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On Behalf Of Ruth Lee Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:17 AM To: Cosmos
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Hi Don,
Yes, that's
what I was getting at: standardization. For our team here I've suggested that
we'll want to choose something to align with the Eclipse June 2008 release.
Many of the Eclipse projects are aligning with that June goal and it would be
ideal if COSMOS v1.0 would be tested on at least one of those supported
OS/JRE combinations.
Here's a link to what Eclipse 3.4 will
support: http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_plan_3_4.html#TargetOperatingEnvironments
>From
the Eclipse 3.4 plan, I chose Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.0 with IBM Java5 SR5
when I requested the Linux machine for development.
For Windows I'd vote
for Windows XP with IBM Java5 SR5 because I think that more of us have access
to Windows XP rather than Vista.
Thanks, Ruth.
Ruth
Lee IBM Toronto Lab ruthdaly@xxxxxxxxxx T/L
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It is
traditional for our commercial products to support the current versions of
Red Hat and SuSE enterprise editions and one or more back level
versions. That isn't relevant to the project test requirements beyond a
general requirement for us to test our Linux support on a convenient
freely-available Linux platform and a willingness to accept patches if the
testing of our commercial products reveals an unexpected bug. I
think that it would be best for us to discuss this on one of the architecture
calls, but my suggestion is for us to standardize on what we have
conveniently available. What is running on the machines are we
using now in our development and testing? Don
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- platform considerations
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Ruth, Thanks, that covers the IBM
side? In regards to your other question, we will need an updated
Dependency diagram for i10. Mark, Should we start to
think about a Dependency diagram for COSMOS 1.0? Jack / Don, Any
thoughts from the CA & Compuware end in regards to Linux
environment? Thanks, Jimmy Mohsin Cell
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On Behalf Of Ruth Lee Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:48 PM To: Cosmos
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platform considerations
Hi Jimmy,
I don't expect that
each person will need a dual OS environment. Instead, my expectation is that
one Linux machine can be shared by our internal development team. (Where
"internal development team" is David Whiteman, Ali Mehregani, Hubert Leung,
Sheldon Lee-Loy. ) I took the to-do this morning to get access to a Linux
machine for those four developers.
If QA finds a bug on Linux: 1.
First the developer attempts to recreate the bug on Windows. 2. If the bug
can be recreated on Windows then the developer fixes it on Windows and unit
tests it on both Windows and Linux. 3. If the bug cannot be recreated on
Windows then the developer debugs and fixes it on Linux
alone.
Because we work with Java code it is my expectation
that the majority of bugs found will be reproducible on Windows. Since those
four people know that they'll be sharing a Linux machine, they will
communicate with each other before accessing that machine to ensure that they
don't damage each other's work on the machine. If this plan doesn't work in
practice then we'll reassess the situation and adapt, but for now this is
what I'm aiming for.
BTW, not sure if anyone else has brought this up
yet, yet another detail to hash out in i10: which version of Linux will we
support? And Windows? And JDK? I believe that people may have seen the email
that Saurabh sent out earlier stating that we are deferring the move of the
builds to the eclipse server from i9 to i10 because we don't want to
destabilize the iteration build. Part of that destabilization risk is that
the JDK on the eclipse server is different than the version that's on the IBM
servers. In i10 I'd like to find out if it's it correct to assume that
everyone should be testing with the JDK version that's on the eclipse
server.
Thanks, Ruth.
Ruth Lee IBM Toronto
Lab ruthdaly@xxxxxxxxxx T/L 313-4453
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platform considerations
Given
that Linux is a must do platform for closing i9, is the hardware / software
environment in place across the board to resolve Linux defects in both the
Dev and QA space?
I raise this question since in the call this morning,
someone stated that if QA finds a bug on Linux, the Developer should ensure
that the bug is addressed on BOTH Windows / Linux. If we end up doing
this, this implies the need for dual OS environments for the Development AND
QA teams?.
Thanks, Jimmy Mohsin Cell
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From: Adivishnu, Kishore Sent: Thursday, February 21,
2008 12:41 PM To: Gjelaj, Domenica; Doma, Srinivas Reddy Cc: Mohsin,
Jimmy Subject: RE: COSMOS MR QA
Thanks for the updates
Domenica!
I missed today?s community meeting as I had to attend some
other meeting. However, I attended Architecture meeting. Focus was made
mainly defects and ERs in
it.
Thanks, -Kishore
From: Gjelaj,
Domenica Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:30 PM To: Doma, Srinivas
Reddy; Adivishnu, Kishore Cc: Mohsin, Jimmy Subject: COSMOS MR
QA
Srinivas-
As agreed at today's Cosmos Community
meeting:
Linux support is mandatory for this iteration. QA will
provide daily report/findings on WIKI. QA will send notification to Cosmos
team when daily update is posted. If QA encounters any showstoppers, they are
to request an emergency meeting with team. -Domenica
Domenica
Gjelaj CA Director, Program Management Tel +1
631-342-5495 domenica.gjelaj@xxxxxx
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