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Re: [cosmos-dev] COSMOS i9 QA - platform considerations & dependency diagram
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I thought I remembered QA (from CA)
indicating that IBM Java is difficult to obtain outside IBM. Do we
want to put Sun's JRE as more of a priority in testing, esp. on Windows,
considering it's way more pervasive in the industry?
David
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Kishore / Srini,
Can you please confirm the Linux
& Java versions from the CA end?
Thanks,
Jimmy Mohsin
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[mailto:cosmos-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ruth Lee
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:17 AM
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Subject: RE: [cosmos-dev] COSMOS i9 QA - platform considerations&
Dependencydiagram
Hi Don,
Yes, that's what I was getting at: standardization. For our team here I've
suggested that we'll want to choose something to align with the Eclipse
June 2008 release. Many of the Eclipse projects are aligning with that
June goal and it would be ideal if COSMOS v1.0 would be tested on at least
one of those supported OS/JRE combinations.
Here's a link to what Eclipse 3.4 will support: http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_plan_3_4.html#TargetOperatingEnvironments
>From the Eclipse 3.4 plan, I chose Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.0 with IBM
Java5 SR5 when I requested the Linux machine for development.
For Windows I'd vote for Windows XP with IBM Java5 SR5 because I think
that more of us have access to Windows XP rather than Vista.
Thanks,
Ruth.
Ruth Lee
IBM Toronto Lab
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It is traditional for our commercial products to support the current versions
of Red Hat and SuSE enterprise editions and one or more back level versions.
That isn't relevant to the project test requirements beyond a general
requirement for us to test our Linux support on a convenient freely-available
Linux platform and a willingness to accept patches if the testing of our
commercial products reveals an unexpected bug.
I think that it would be best for us to discuss this on one of the architecture
calls, but my suggestion is for us to standardize on what we have conveniently
available. What is running on the machines are we using now in our
development and testing?
Don
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Subject: [cosmos-dev] COSMOS i9 QA - platform considerations &
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Ruth,
Thanks, that covers the IBM side… In regards to your other question,
we will need an updated Dependency diagram for i10.
Mark,
Should we start to think about a Dependency diagram for COSMOS 1.0?
Jack / Don,
Any thoughts from the CA & Compuware end in regards to Linux environment?
Thanks,
Jimmy Mohsin
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On Behalf Of Ruth Lee
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:48 PM
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Cc: Adivishnu, Kishore
Subject: Re: [cosmos-dev] RE: COSMOS i9 QA - platform considerations
Hi Jimmy,
I don't expect that each person will need a dual OS environment. Instead,
my expectation is that one Linux machine can be shared by our internal
development team. (Where "internal development team" is David
Whiteman, Ali Mehregani, Hubert Leung, Sheldon Lee-Loy. ) I took the to-do
this morning to get access to a Linux machine for those four developers.
If QA finds a bug on Linux:
1. First the developer attempts to recreate the bug on Windows.
2. If the bug can be recreated on Windows then the developer fixes it on
Windows and unit tests it on both Windows and Linux.
3. If the bug cannot be recreated on Windows then the developer debugs
and fixes it on Linux alone.
Because we work with Java code it is my expectation that the majority of
bugs found will be reproducible on Windows. Since those four people know
that they'll be sharing a Linux machine, they will communicate with each
other before accessing that machine to ensure that they don't damage each
other's work on the machine. If this plan doesn't work in practice then
we'll reassess the situation and adapt, but for now this is what I'm aiming
for.
BTW, not sure if anyone else has brought this up yet, yet another detail
to hash out in i10: which version of Linux will we support? And Windows?
And JDK? I believe that people may have seen the email that Saurabh sent
out earlier stating that we are deferring the move of the builds to the
eclipse server from i9 to i10 because we don't want to destabilize the
iteration build. Part of that destabilization risk is that the JDK on the
eclipse server is different than the version that's on the IBM servers.
In i10 I'd like to find out if it's it correct to assume that everyone
should be testing with the JDK version that's on the eclipse server.
Thanks,
Ruth.
Ruth Lee
IBM Toronto Lab
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Given that Linux is a must do platform for closing i9, is the hardware
/ software environment in place across the board to resolve Linux defects
in both the Dev and QA space?
I raise this question since in the call this morning, someone stated that
if QA finds a bug on Linux, the Developer should ensure that the bug is
addressed on BOTH Windows / Linux. If we end up doing this, this
implies the need for dual OS environments for the Development AND QA teams….
Thanks,
Jimmy Mohsin
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From: Adivishnu, Kishore
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:41 PM
To: Gjelaj, Domenica; Doma, Srinivas Reddy
Cc: Mohsin, Jimmy
Subject: RE: COSMOS MR QA
Thanks for the updates Domenica!
I missed today’s community meeting as I had to attend some other meeting.
However, I attended Architecture meeting. Focus was made mainly defects
and ERs in it.
Thanks,
-Kishore
From: Gjelaj, Domenica
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:30 PM
To: Doma, Srinivas Reddy; Adivishnu, Kishore
Cc: Mohsin, Jimmy
Subject: COSMOS MR QA
Srinivas-
As agreed at today's Cosmos Community meeting:
- Linux support is mandatory for this iteration.
- QA will provide daily report/findings
on WIKI.
- QA will send notification to Cosmos team
when daily update is posted.
- If QA encounters any showstoppers, they are
to request an emergency meeting with team.
-Domenica
Domenica Gjelaj
CA
Director, Program Management
Tel +1 631-342-5495
domenica.gjelaj@xxxxxx
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