Re: [cosmos-dev] Re: Dojo toolkit legal issues are gone

[Harm Sluiman <sluiman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Interestingly I mentioned the alternate
approach to Sheldon because at the time each release level of the dojo
toolkit was being IP checked and they change quickly, while in the meantime
the question of including it in the packaging was being discussed. I recall
Sheldon took the approach of making this configurable so you could work
with what ever compatible dojo variant and location you wanted.

Bjorn clearly has the say on this as
your PMC lead and as one of the few people that know the rules due to extreme
exposure ;-), 
Requiring an operating system I gather
is simply considered reasonable, as is the Java runtime, I believe you
will find sprinkled through the Eclipse.org website URLs to company websites,
that may or may not contain _javascript_, that are clearly not EPL. This
part of COSMOS has to be hosted on some web server before it will "function"
but I don't think COSMOS is expected to get IP approval for a server or
specify a specific dependancy on Tomcat. Even if DOJO is cleared it relies
on the browser to work and I don't think we are getting firefox and IE
cleared ;-). I think you can find some _javascript_ on the eclipse.org as
well.

So there is some boundary that I could
not find stated somewhere.  

So my question would be about the criteria
that says a URL on the website can point to non EPL, yet a url in some
_javascript_ web from a project requires IP approval. I can imagine a fuzzy
discussion about the functioning of a website versus the functioning of
a website that is the project product, but this may be something to get
cleared up at the foundation level since web interfaces are becoming of
greater interest to the Eclipse community at large. It seems the eclipse.org
website is the product of a project as well ;-)
COSMOS may be on the bleeding edge here.

Either way picking a specific level
of DOJO for the 1.0 COSMOS will at least reduce the variants that need
to be checked.

Thanks for your time.
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David Whiteman <David_Whiteman@xxxxxxxxxx>
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01/10/2008 10:38 AM

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Bjorn wrote on 01/09/2008 02:41:12 PM:

> Sheldon, David, and the rest of the COSMOS team,
> 
> Unfortunately, referencing a required library (dojo) via a CDN rather
than a 
> eclipse.org download does not solve the legal issue. According to
the Eclipse Board
> of Directors, required dependencies of an Eclipse project must also
go through the 
> legal review process (see http://www.eclipse.
> org/org/documents/Eclipse_Policy_and_Procedure_for_3rd_Party_Dependencies_Final.pdf
> ). The purpose of this policy is to ensure that Eclipse frameworks
are usable by 
> the eco-system without constraints -- if an Eclipse project (under
EPL) *requires* 
> another framework (for example GPL) before the project will function,
then 
> effectively the framework can only be reused under GPL, n'est pas?
> 
> Thus the COSMOS project must use the CQ process to gain approval to
reference dojo 
> as an external dependency.
> 
> - Bjorn 
> 
> Harm brought to my attention that AOL has made dojo toolkit builds
available on the
> content delivery network (http://dojotoolkit.org/2007/11/06/dojo-1-0-0-available-aol-cdn)
> 
> I've modified the data visualization code so that the UI references
the 1.0.0 build
> on CDN instead of a local copy of the dojo toolkit.  I opened
bug 211240 to track 
> this solution (https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=211240)
> 
> The following are benefits to doing this: 
> - no more legal hassle since we are no longer packaging dojo with
our drivers.  
> Instead we are referencing the builds on CDN 

An unfortunate reminder that "no more legal hassle" rarely comes
to fruition. :-) 

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