Re: [cdt-dev] FW: New topic in forum C / C++ IDE (CDT), called Why can't

[Jonas Jonsson L <jonas.l.jonsson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree 100% with Doug.

The feeling of being frustrated by Eclipse, feeling that you as a user don't understand the tool sticks for a very long time.  I have, since 2006, been trying to get the developers here to start using Eclipse.  Believe me, there are good developers that still feel humiliated by Eclipse, because it doesn't work well enough from first start.

/Jonas

On 10/21/2015 05:19 AM, Doug Schaefer wrote:

The request I was referring to was to "take pity on beginning C++ programmers". When they install the C++ IDE for Eclipse it should just work, right out of the box. It should make sure a toolchain is installed so they don't need to learn what a toolchain is. That feeling they have frustrated by Eclipse is something that will stick with this poor student forever and that impacts they're perception of Eclipse for C++ as they enter the workforce.

It's comments like theirs that make me want to rip the C++ IDE off of the Eclipse download site. It's horrible for true beginners. We can do better.

Doug.