Re: [asciidoc-wg] 2021 Program plan and budget

[Robert Kratky <rkratky@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Dan,

I've raised this before but as there hasn't been much discussion until now, let me wade in again: Could you please outline how is asciidoc-lang.org better than lang.asciidoc.org?

The former invites confusion and suggests two different/independent (and thus possibly competing) initiatives. The latter makes it clear that the Language project is firmly within the "official" AsciiDoc family (while allowing for a totally separate web presence from asciidoc.org).

Regards,
Robert


On Fri, Dec  4 20 16:37, Dan Allen wrote:
> Graeme,
> 
> Thank you for your feedback. You need not feel like just a spectator here.
> Everyone is welcome to participate. And if you're participating, you are
> part of this community.
> 
> It may seem unnecessary to have multiple domains right now, but trust that
> this is going to give us room to grow. I assure you this is not an
> indicator of fragmentation. Rather, it's about specialization. The AsciiDoc
> Language project needs it's own domain (asciidoc-lang.org) that's
> exclusively focused on the language, its artifacts, and the TCK. It's not a
> marketing / advocacy site. It's a project site. This mirrors what many
> other languages do, such as Ruby, Swift, Rust, etc. The asciidoc.org site
> will then be a portal for the ecosystem and all the places AsciiDoc is
> used. So the scope is much, much broader. We haven't yet decided whether
> this is the same as the Working Group website or a separate site. We'll
> communicate those plans once we're ready to discuss them. But whatever we
> decide there, it will not affect asciidoc-lang.org.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> -Dan
> 
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 4:10 PM Graeme Smecher <gsmecher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> Looks great.
>>
>> I'm a spectator here, so I'm reluctant to offer criticism. However, I
>> still see asciidoc-lang.org as a separate domain name in the slides.
>>
>> I wanted to echo the earlier discussion: there is already a natural
>> landing site for all things AsciiDoc on asciidoc.org, and sprouting a
>> whole new domain seems artificial and will confuse users (especially new
>> users, who are your growth path.) If a new domain is what's most
>> expedient, perhaps that's a hint about fragmentation within the AsciiDoc
>> ecosystem (which this project is supposed to reverse.)
>>
>> Again, thanks for all your hard work. I'm excited to see where this leads.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Graeme
>>
>> On 2020-12-02 2:48 p.m., Dan Allen wrote:
>> > In order for this Working Group to continue into 2021 and beyond, we
>> > must submit a Program Plan and Budget for approval by the Eclipse
>> > Foundation. The program plan outlines our objectives for the coming year
>> > and informs the budget. The budget then determines the fees for Partner
>> > Members. (We will also be looking for resources from within the group as
>> > well as alternate sources of funding to help support the proposed
>> > activities outlined in the program plan).
>> >
>> > You can find the Program Plan and Budget in the links below.
>> >
>> > Program Plan::
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13x9Yx1JafkqZQx7sG4BHSLJ4-N0rWOU-L72zJmrqjvw/edit
>> > <
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13x9Yx1JafkqZQx7sG4BHSLJ4-N0rWOU-L72zJmrqjvw/edit
>> >
>> > Budget::
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cg8GU-4zj2V1YqNQjeXNq0rtnZV4KuPjKm86qczAmvo/edit?usp=sharing
>> > <
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cg8GU-4zj2V1YqNQjeXNq0rtnZV4KuPjKm86qczAmvo/edit?usp=sharing
>> >
>> >
>> > Both documents are in DRAFT. However, the Eclipse Foundation needs us to
>> > vote on them very soon, so they won't be in draft for much longer. Feel
>> > free to review and share any feedback you may have in this thread.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > -Dan