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Re: [technology-pmc] Pending Microprofile Committer Elections

Kevin, I'll clarify:
I was commenting specifically about Wayne's speculation about some people wanting a project division based on not knowing/trusting some committers. I was thinking that would be a sign of a project that was somewhat unhealthy, because it indicates poor communication or agreement/understanding of how committer elections are expected to work.
I did not intend to imply that the MicroProfile project is in any trouble in general, just that if Wayne's assessment is on point then some things may need to be clarified and/or discussed with the project committers. It sounds like that is indeed happening, although the vote comments are still somewhat concerning.

My recommendation is to continue the discussions among the current committers and then re-nominate if and when more understanding is reached among the voters.

Eric
November 3, 2017 at 10:47 AM
Eric,
Overall, I think we have a very healthy project over here in MicroProfile.  I actually see these discussions to show that we are healthy.  We're discussing how to properly organize our project for the benefit of everyone involved.  I think these type of discussions should be encouraged and not viewed as being "un-healthy".

Thanks, Kevin


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November 3, 2017 at 10:28 AM
Just for clarity, I only vetoed the nomination for Tom Evans, because his existing contributions didn't seem worthy of full committer status. I intentionally did not veto the other 2 nominations (yet) because I wanted to hear the rest of the PMS members' thoughts.
I agree that Wayne's assessment that perhaps they want multiple projects with different contributors might be on point. However I'm not sure that represents a healthy project or that Microprofile *should* be split up just for political reasons. To me a healthy project would not even request it due to lack of trust.

Eric

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November 3, 2017 at 10:17 AM
+1 to "it looks like the process is working. IMHO, the comments by the abstainers are sufficient to explain why the election was problematic, and I stand behind Eric's veto."




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November 3, 2017 at 10:16 AM
Comments like this bother me, as it suggests that the abstention is unrelated to the actual fitness of the individual and more as a political play. The context of the other comments, however, I'm going to assume that this isn't the case.


If I read between the lines, I believe that the actual problem is that at least some committers don't trust that new committers will restrict themselves to repositories in their area of expertise and they feel a need to have finer grained control over write access.

Other than that, it looks like the process is working. IMHO, the comments by the abstainers are sufficient to explain why the election was problematic, and I stand behind Eric's veto.

Wayne




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