Hi Wayne, Gunnar, Chris
and other Technology PMC members,
Thanks for your votes.
Let me explain the licensing issue for you, so maybe there is a chance of
publishing 1.0 release (project graduation) before or together with Juno. When
we passed the initial legal review the following point was indentified as a
blocker for graduation.
The Subversive project
consists of:
- Subversive module (distributed
from Eclipse)
- SVN library
connectors JavaHL and SVNKit (distributed from external location)
SVNKit is
EPL-incompatible. JavaHL includes Neon library that is EPL-incompatible, so JavaHL
was declared EPL-incompatible too. Of course, without SVN libraries Subversive
can't work with SVN repositories, so both SVNKit and JavaHL were declared as
"works with" dependencies that should be distributed from an external
location. Few years ago when we discussed Subversive plans with Mike, Bjorn and
the legal team the verdict was - "the project can't be graduated (and
included into Eclipse distribution)" until legal issues will be resolved.
Please consider this
again. Can we request the project graduation and 1.0 release now instead of
releasing 0.8 version? What do you think?
Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
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Hi Igor
+1 on engaging with a 0.8 release now, followed by a 1.0/graduation with Juno.
I am not aware of any restriction against Subversive graduating with works-with
dependencies on SVN implementations. Perhaps there has been a miscommunication.
Can you point me to discussion of this?
Other thoughts:
We have several projects that release with with minor versions > 9. EGit and
JGit are examples. The project summary pages sort releases numerically--not
lexigraphically--so sorting there isn't a problem.
If you're changing APIs, or adding significant new functionality, you have to
do a proper release with (at least) an increased minor version.
HTH,
Wayne
On 04/19/2012 12:45 PM, Igor Vinnykov wrote:
Hello PMC Team,
The Subversive project team would like to request a
project release review according with Eclipse guidelines. We are looking for
your suggestions regarding the release and your approval to submit
documentation to EMO. We plan to include the new release to the Juno
Simultaneous release.
Let me share with you reasons why we decided to make
the release now:
1. We need to change Subversive integration API,
because the project need to provide support of SVN 1.7. We need to create the
new version with the new API.
2. We simply out of version numbers. The latest
release was 0.7.9 and from our previous experience the update component doesn't
work correctly when the release number, i.e. 0.7.10 in our case, is
"lower" from strings comparation point of view. Maybe it isn't the case,
not, but it's better to avoid such kind of problems.
3. This release was planned a long time ago. SVN team
planned to replace EPL-incompatible libraries in the SVN 1.7 release, that
should make all Subversive components EPL-compatible, so we expected to make a
project graduation and release version 1.0 once SVN 1.7 become available. But
SVN team decided to postpone libraries replacement to version 1.8 and we have
to wait again.
Also the project is on Eclipse for a long time and it
can be really considered as "mature". The only problem that prevents
the graduation is Subversive's dependency on non-EPL compatible libraries. The
EPL compatibility issue was discussed few years ago and I'm wondering maybe
something was changed recently and it's not a problem for project's graduation
anymore. I would like to ask your recommendation - should we make a new release
as 0.8 and keep the project in incubation or can be able to graduate the
project and make 1.0 release?
If someone requires details about EPL-compatibility
issue I will be glad to explain it as well as other topics regarding
Subversive.
Best
regards,
Igor
Vinnykov
Subversive Team
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