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Re: [technology-pmc] Candidates for Termination/Continuation reviews
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Annually. However, we've been doing a bad job of enforcing it.
Wayne
mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
My recollection is that projects are supposed to have some sort of review annually.
But Wayne is the oracle.
Mike Milinkovich
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From: "Konstantin Komissarchik" <konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:29:36
To: <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 'Technology PMC'<technology-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [technology-pmc] Candidates for Termination/Continuation reviews
Does the dev process specify the frequency of continuation reviews for
incubating projects? If not, it seems to me that it would make sense to wait
until after Q1 to take any actions as the situation would resolve or change
by then such that concrete actions could be taken. It seems to me that a
continuation review at this stage would not actually accomplish anything. We
already know that they are stuck and why they are stuck.
- Konstantin
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[mailto:technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:13 PM
To: 'Technology PMC'
Subject: RE: [technology-pmc] Candidates for Termination/Continuation
reviews
Konstantin,
The idea of doing a continuation review would be exactly to allow them to
"remain in incubation". The dev process says that projects are required to
have periodic reviews, and these two haven't had one for quite a while. The
continuation review would simply document that they're still alive but that
they are stuck.
The new forge most likely won't be operational until late Q1, which is
around the time that Maven 3 is supposed to ship. (Based on the latest info
we have.) So it will be a close race to which option arrives first.
Does that make sense?
Mike Milinkovich
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From: technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:technology-pmc-
bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Konstantin Komissarchik
Sent: December-02-09 5:57 PM
To: 'Technology PMC'
Subject: RE: [technology-pmc] Candidates for Termination/Continuation
reviews
Hi Wayne,
I generally agree with your proposed actions with the exception of the two
Maven projects. I am uncertain as to what we would hope to actually
achieve
with a continuation review of these projects in Q1. Given how important
Maven tooling is, I am concerned that we don't send wrong message to
people
who have been contributing to this tooling. If the IP issues are likely to
be resolved, then I suggest we let the projects remain in incubation until
then. Otherwise, a better course of action would be to suggest a move to
the
non-IP-cleared Eclipse code repository that Foundation is apparently
setting
up (going on Mike's blog here).
- Konstantin
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From: technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wayne Beaton
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:27 PM
To: Technology PMC
Subject: [technology-pmc] Candidates for Termination/Continuation reviews
Greetings Technology PMC. I have done a quick review of some of our
projects and have come to the conclusion that it might be time to
consider terminating/archiving some of them. I have identified some
others that are due for a continuation review (this list is not complete).
I'd like to hear your thoughts/concerns before I take this to the
projects themselves. I intend to use the projects' developer mailing
list for the communication, and give the projects until year's end to
respond. We'll do the termination review at the beginning of 1Q10.
Your recommendations for projects that need to be added to this list are
most welcome as well.
I will offer to assemble a single termination review document for all
that agree.
Thanks,
Wayne
Albireo
There hasn't been a commit in more than nine months. The last committer
activity on the project's mailing list occurred on December 17, 08. The
last committer activity on the newsgroup/forum occurred on November 7,
2008. The project seems to be dead. I recommend a Termination Review.
technology.athena
I just noticed this "extra" Athena project (technology.athena) in the
database. I'm not sure how this got there, but it seems to be different
from technology.dash.athena. I think it may have just gotten created by
mistake.
BPEL
Seems generally active, but hasn't had a review of any form in while. I
recommend we ask for a continuation review. It may be naive, but it
seems to me that this project might fit in the new SOA top level project
that the board recently approved the charter for. I'd like to encourage
them to consider moving.
ECM Rich Client Platform
Project is marked as "Incubation-nonconforming". All committers are
currently listed as "inactive" meaning that there have been no commits
for at least nine months. There has been no committer activity in the
newsgroup/forum for more than a year. Developer mailing list has been
inactive for more than a year. The project seems to be dead. I recommend
a Termination review.
IAM
The project was recently informed by the IP Team that their blocker
dependency (Maven) doesn't pass IP scrutiny. Specifically, there is an
issue with the provenance of the Maven Plexus component that cannot be
resolved [1]. There is some hope that, with the 3.0 release of Maven,
this issue will be resolved. In the meantime, there's really not much
that they can do but wait. I recommend a continuation review.
Alternatively, the project might consider terminating and recreating at
a future date when the provenance issues are cleared up.
Maven Integration (m2eclipse)
This project has the same issue as IAM. I recommend a continuation
review. Alternatively, the project might consider terminating and
recreating at a future date when the provenance issues are cleared up.
Maynstall
All committers are currently listed as "inactive" meaning that there
have been no commits for at least nine months. There has been no
committer activity in the newsgroup/forum for more than a year.
Developer mailing list has been inactive for more than a year. The
project seems to be dead. I recommend a Termination review.
Open Financial Market Platform
AFAIK, the project lead intends to archive this project in favour of the
new Eclipse Financial Platform project currently in the proposal stage.
All committers are currently listed as "inactive" meaning that there
have been no commits for at least nine months. There has been no
committer activity in the newsgroup/forum for more than a year.
Developer mailing list has been inactive for more than a year. The
project seems to be dead. I recommend a Termination review.
Open Requirements Management Framework
All committers are currently listed as "inactive" meaning that there
have been no commits for at least nine months. There has, however, been
relatively activity in the mailing lists and newsgroup. I recommend a
continuation review.
The Eclipse Spaces Project
With the exception of one, all committers are currently listed as
"inactive" meaning that there have been essentially no commits for at
least nine months. That one commit occurred in March. There has been no
committer activity in the newsgroup/forum for more than nine months.
Developer mailing list has been inactive for more than nine months. The
project seems to be dead. I recommend a Termination review.
Summer of Code (SOC)
This project was never particularly active. We originally created it to
provide a home for code generated by the GSoC programme offering at
Eclipse. We haven't actually committed any code to this project or any
of its subprojects for a long time. We didn't use it at all in the last
year. I recommend a Termination review of this container project and
all its subprojects. We can keep the website and newsgroup alive as just
one more of the properties that the Eclipse Foundation maintains.
Corona Project - Tools Services Framework
There have been commits in the last six months, but nothing in the last
three. I don't think it's time to ask for a termination review, but it
is certainly time to request a continuation review.
[1] https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3164
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